Kamonfeek Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Bit out of the way I know but wondered if anyone knew if the Rose Pub had shut down? Seems to never be open (although recently it's empty, no beer and some of the staff aren't the friendliest). That pub always seems to fail strangely. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
solar Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It sometimes has a sign outside saying that it is closed due to a private party. I passed by about an hour ago and it was closed for this reason. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-920815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Only been 3-4 times.. a couple of times when Curry Club has met there when going to Omrith. Never got any ale on and only 1 lager and bottled beers, Well there were no staff on hand that knew how to change barrel. Place is dismal.. On one occasion it was so cold in there. 'no heating' the governor was behind the bar wearing a hat and overcoat... and again no beer. No food available.. and about 3-4 customers Sunday lunch time. It's a dump. Always has been. Even when I knew the manager several years back. Don't understand why. Only competition is The Hearn. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-920843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristymac1 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 That sign has been out there for 2 weeks! Is a really lovely building it'd be so good to have a local pub run by folk who give a toss.it'd make a great community pub/ivy house style.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-920849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I thought it was undergoing a refurb? Nothing much seemed to be happening though when I walked past the other day. Firmly closed and no work appearing to be done. Hmm... it's true it is mostly empty, which is a shame. It's a good space and really could be a great 'community pub/Ivy House style' pub though I'd be equally happy for a Late Knights/Beer Rebellion makeover. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-920897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taper Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I've heard it's being taken over by the people responsible for The Rye. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-920926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabel42 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 What a shame. It started off so well when it was taken over by present management - serving tapas, then jerk chicken on Sundays, roasts etc. Perhaps they chopped and changed too much; they just weren't consistent. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-921004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 They also barred a lot of the regulars, which actually wasn't so bad as many of them were boorish oafs but at the same time they stopped having the football on in the pub and it has been pretty much empty ever since, apart of course from when there is a funeral up the road and the pub is used for the wake, those engagements were, it seemed, the only time it ever got busy in recent times.If the story of it being taken over by the people responsible for The Rye then that can only be welcomed as at least it will be run by people who know what they're doing and have a clear vision of how they want it run. The Rye, whether you like or not is a success story and hopefully they can repeat the trick at The Rose otherwise I fear it'll be gone for good. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Perfect place to hold a wake - feels like a morgue in there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I's the J Lyons style Tea shop ceiling that does it for me just visible in this picture..http://www.kzwp.com/lyons2/interior1.jpgFoxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 If they do take it. Then will have Bishop, Actress, Rye and Rose all owned by Greene King. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 stingray Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> If they do take it. Then will have Bishop,> Actress, Rye and Rose all owned by Greene King.green King have just taken over Spirit and look like adding many of those pubs to the Metropolitan Group (that was Capital Pubs).http://www.spiritpubcompany.com/spirit/en/homeSo a huge group now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 annabel42 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What a shame. It started off so well when it was> taken over by present management - serving tapas,> then jerk chicken on Sundays, roasts etc. Perhaps> they chopped and changed too much; they just> weren't consistent.Wasn't it mexican / tapas, something for everyone when it openedAnd an 'open Mike' stage, which just makes for a great place to eat and drink Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milhouse Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 There are lots of stories that do the rounds about how the pub is run and why it seems to be struggling. From a personal perspective, every time I've gone in over the last year, they simply don't have any beer in. Usually Guiness and one lager. The bar staff can never say why they don't have more nor say when they'll get more in. So I don't go in any more. It's a shame as the food has always been pretty good. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Greene King is one of the largest Brewery groups in the UK.. The group operates 3,100 pubs, restaurants and hotels.. Not sure it would be that concerned about acquiring a run down out of the way failing pub. Who knows.. DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 How is it out of the way DF? Maybe only for you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbsy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 It's very in the way for me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> How is it out of the way DF? Maybe only for you.If it's NOT out of the way, why does no one go there? Would seem out of the way for many. Apart from a kebab shop and a not so busy Indian restaurant (cos its also out of the way)and a cemetery not much going on round there.More people in the Cemetery paying their respects on a Sunday morning that eating Sunday lunch in The rose.Foxy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Weird menus. Novelty entertainment. No beer. Classic signs of a pub in dire need of help. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Jah Lush Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > How is it out of the way DF? Maybe only for> you.> > If it's NOT out of the way, why does no one go> there? Would seem out of the way for many. > Apart from a kebab shop and a not so busy Indian> restaurant (cos its also out of the way.There is also a new caf? that opened recently a little further up that is apparently doing a roaring trade plus more shops and restaurants further down that appear to be doing rather well.It's still only 'out of the way' to you. The Gowlett does very nicely with no surrounding shops or restaurants on a back street but then its 'out of the way' or 'too far' for you and yet you live only a five or six minute walk away from it. It's not 'out of the way' to people who live nearby. It's a 10-15 minute walk for me and I don't consider that 'too far' or 'out of the way' at all. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Presumably the caf? opens during the day. Unlike the Rose in my experience. Like wise the Gowlett which I have walked passed during the day only to find it empty. With pending Physio and Arthroscopy on by knee its kind of more than 6 mins to The Gowlett and IMHO not worth passing other pubs to get to. Even friends who live in Ady's rd. who were regulars no longer go there. The Rose is just under a mile is a 15 min walk. After being robbed and knocked unconscious a few years back Crawthew / Lacon rd. I'm careful where I go at night. I certainly would not venture down Gowlett road on my own. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 No need to be afraid old fella because of one isolated incident. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binkylilyput Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Jah Lush Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > How is it out of the way DF? Maybe only for> you.> > If it's NOT out of the way, why does no one go> there? Would seem out of the way for many. > Apart from a kebab shop and a not so busy Indian> restaurant (cos its also out of the way)> and a cemetery not much going on round there.> > More people in the Cemetery paying their respects> on a Sunday morning that eating Sunday lunch in> The rose.> > Foxy.Perhaps you've not been to that area for a while but there is more going on there than you suggest. A new cafe, Norris and Knight (which is lovely), the French Cafe which is now an evening restaurant, Si Mangia (a busy restaurant), a wonderful turkish supermarket and now a Hammam spa just to mention a few!I think the venue has amazing potential- a huge garden area for a start. Can't see how it is out of the way!To my observation the staff and manageress/ owner were far from pleasant. Often ignored at the bar while they have a chat. Often sat in the beer garden (lovely when sunny) surrounded by dirty glasses, ash trays etc, not because it was so busy the staff didn't have time (empty)while the mangeress/owner sat drinking and smoking with her mates. There has been at least one long thread on EDF about rude behaviour in this place.Fingers crossed someone does something fab with it! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I suppose people go where they live.. The local.. Over the years I have used the Uplands (Jim Smith era), Palmerston(old) , The Foresters , Bishop , EDT , as my regular watering hole.. Also used the Wickham Arms Brockley nightly for many years despite being far away. (1980's) Had many friends there. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 So counting the Foresters/Bishop as one, you've pretty much only used four pubs within a 400 yard radius since the 80s. How very adventurous of you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/81247-rose-pub-forest-hill-road-is-it-closed/#findComment-924713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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