PeckhamRose Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I am on a list at the doctors to get one free because I have related lung problems.I decided to go ahead and have it.I had the regular flu jab last week.Will I die as a result of the jab?!Seriously though - I have read as much as I can and a part of me is saying - if I get swine flu it could have serious consequences not just for me with already bad lungs, but those I pass it on to. So I'll go for the jab.Others are saying no way, it's not been tested enough.What do you lot think? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 There doesn?t seem to be any credible evidence that it is any more dangerous than any other flu vaccine. You will of course always get a raft of idiots bleating on about things like this because it makes juicy little headlines for the Daily Mail. Why? Well probably because vaccinating against potentially fatal diseases is obviously a bad thing and historically unsuccessful. You know like Smallpox and Polio. I think that if you are classed as being at risk you would be mad not to get it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-259245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Here is an article from a credible publication on the issue. The New Scientist: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/10/fighting-the-anti-vaccine-brig.html Or you could perhaps choose to believe this bulshit. The Daily Bollocks: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-259248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Thanks Brendan! As I said I'm having it, be good to hear other's thoughts though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-259287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townleygreen Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Don't worry PR, I had two flu jabs (one was swine flu) on Saturday morning. I am still alive!But if you don't see any more posts from me, start worrying...lol Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-259384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Brendan Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I think that if you are classed as being at risk> you would be mad not to get it.I agree with Brendan. But even then, I would ask to view the (apparently very long) list of "side effects" in order to weigh up the risks properly and make a truly informed decision. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-259397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Well one of the important issues for me is that the stuff being injected is not a 'live' vaccine.When I had flu vaccination 15 yrs ago it was 'live' and gave me a life threatening asthma attack as a result.Now, those vaccinations are synthetic and I have had one each year for the last 5 with just a sore arm for a few days as a resultThe swine flu vaccination is (and I can't remember the exact word but it's something like - de-activated, in that it is not live but it is effective.Having weighed pros and cons I am going for it. I may also get an asthma attack as a result of getting swine flu so if I have the jab I'm kinda covered as best I can. Thank you to the scientists and the NHS for saving my life and keeping me healthy (even if I can't afford all my prescriptions!) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-259417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle-ish Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 So have you actually stopped getting flu now after the annual jabs? Or do you get it but milder? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-261204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Never had flu since I started having the annual regular flu jabs.That's been about 5 years ago.Flu is a serious health risk for me because I will often get bad asthma attacks.Swine Flu jab is a week today!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-261259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-261384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 OK so you have free will not to have flu jabs and take your chances.But you may get flu or swine flu and it MAY kill you.And even if it doesn't kill you, you may pass it on unwittingly to kids or elderly people or people like me more prone to getting ill.It's a socially responsible thing to do I think.So I'm having it for me and for you.*Readjusts halo* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-261463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I had the Swine Flu jab yesterday as well as the normal seasonal jab. I was offered both as a front line health worker, I don't normally bother with the normal jab but could have both at the same time (at work) without having to make appointments etc.I feel fine and apart from the Swine Flu arm feeling a little tender, have had no side effects at all. It's sad to say that few of my colleagues have accepted the vacccine , a shame when we are supposed to help prevent the spread to vulnerable individuals. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-262693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If a person is generally healthy and does not get flu often do they really need these vaccines? This is like the doc saying that we should all be on high blood pressure meds and statins. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-262713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 But you may get it and not notice you got it, and pass it on to other vulnerable people like me.So, thanks! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-262879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 It would be remiss of me not to inform you all of what the vaccination opposition people are saying: andTen Things You're Not Supposed to Know About the Swine Flu vaccination.I'm still going to have it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-262887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fractionater Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'm not! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-263925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Do explain why not, what are you views.I was due to have mine today - but am not well, so postponed!It has been acknowledged by the Medical FResearch Council that people are reporting discomfort in their arms for up to 48 hours afterwards. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-263952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'm having it.I had the ordinary flu jab last week (have asthma so high risk) but the GP didn't have the swine flu vaccine in yet. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-264219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I will be having mine on Thursday. I have asthma - not severely, though - and I have the flu jab each year anyway. I have about one cold a year, never get flu, and thus never have the chance to pass it on to people at home, at work, on the bus etc! If you are not in an 'at danger' group, then, as Karter says, it is not worth having one, unless you live with someone who is at risk of complications. Just keep washing those hands in warm, soapy water after you've been on public transport, before you eat, after going to the toilet etc and you'll have less of a chance of getting flu, cold or other virus-born illnesses. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-265002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 Thanks for this Nero.I am feeling better and shall be making another appointment at the doctors later.I agree with what you say. We're not just having it for ourselves! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-265023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thexwinglessxbird Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm not going to take a swine flu jab unless I actually need to (that will be when & if I actually get swine flu) taking it for the sheer fact that you don't want to experience it, may ironically mean you will end up experiencing it.I've forgotten all about the flu & it was supposed to be getting worse in the winter. I'm not going to let it get to me & you shouldn't let it get to you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-268636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Not a lot of point taking the vaccination if you've already contracted swine flu - horses/doors/stables come to mind. I've had the flu, not pleasant but survivable if reasonably healthy. I can utterly understand that if you have underlying health complications, you would not want to get it, so go for the jab. [incidentally, friends in the health business tell me that the site of the injection hurts like billio for a couple of days.] Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-268639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
annaj Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 PGC is absolutely right, thexwinglessxbird, you have completely missed the point of vaccination. There is no point getting the vaccine once you get flu and it is not give to people who have flu. Vaccination is about prevention, not cure, that's the whole point. You stop people getting the flu which benefits the individual, by stopping them from being ill, and the population, by reducing incidence. If you get swine flu you'll be offered tamiflu, which may reduce the severity and duration of the illness, but doesn't cure it as such. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-268700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nero Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Just keep washing those hands in> warm, soapy water after you've been on public> transport, before you eat, after going to the> toilet etc Surely people should have been doing this all their lives anyway. :-S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-268734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y'man Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I've had the first of a two part Swine Flu jab this year and yes, it made me a little sick for a couple of days. It was like having one of those lingering, nuisance colds but just for a couple of days. Having the second dose next month. It's not too big a deal and if it helps beat the real thing I'm all for it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/8457-swine-flu-jabs-are-you-going-to-have-one/#findComment-268740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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