Anna I have to take you to task slightly here, as you seem to be doing your best to put a wide line of distinction between NHS, and all other public sector, and I think that is wrong and unfair. Of course everywhere is a bit different, including one heath trust from another. However, whenever Mrs Keef talks about her experience in the NHS, it rings very true of what I experience in social services, and what she experienced as a teacher. I disagree that the philosophy is particularly different in the NHS, based on my experience, which is of course, different from yours.