Agree, agree and agree! I use buses A LOT, both to get to and from work, and then to travel around the borough of Greenwich going to appointments most days. I try to read my book (fortunately I'm not one to get travel sick doing this), but the kids phone music and just general noise levels actually makes me feel sick! RE: The jerking start/stopping thing, I think the 176 is the worst for this when travelling down hill between E Dulwich library and the police station! Sure it happens elsewhere, but always notice it here, and it really can get the stomach churning! Having said all that, I'd be stuck without them, and driving is not an option for me, so I guess they're better than nothing.