mockney piers

The missus will fester in front of the odd braindead bit of telly and with me in front of the news and Question Time, but she's not really into actors or anything. In her case it's almost entirely the irish connection and the ulster accent. I think she goes for the careworn look too; I for one look like I've been dragged through a bush backwards most of the time, which is probably what she likes in me.

Seriously Jenny, if you having nothing useful to add..... As it goes Keef is a born and bred dulwicher from a resolutely working class background, who put himself through university and works in public service contributing a great deal more to this country than I ever will, and is consistently one of the most reasonable, even handed and popular posters on the forum. You don't seem to have made an awful lot of friends here, just an observation.

As it goes DD, much as I enjoy celebrities having fun poked at them, I genuinely haven't got anything against the guy, good luck to him I say, well except when the missus is chatting him up, but that really wasn't his fault.

How about another Starchy Gallery?

The world's a pretty different place from 900 years ago. A legislature does need to ensure laws reflect changes, technological and societal (not to mention climate), so that's a bit disingenuous of you. But on the whole I agree that less is generally more, this government was (hopefully I can use the past tense here) absolutely obsessed with change, often for changes sake. And just been scanning the Indy's world booklet thing I can't help but notice that Sweden comes out on top of absolutely everything and the U.S. might as well be in the third world, so not convinced by less taxes either.

Actually, he _was_ pretty good in Bloody Sunday. I think on the whole he just chooses a lot of rubbish roles. But like any actor you know the work can dry up (when did pfeiffer last do anything for instance?), so why not cash in on an awful lot of lazy cr*p to at least guarantee your kids will eat, get educated etc.

...and welcome home.

Git!!!

indeed it's a useful way for a band to promote itself. It just commits every web design cardinal sin that exists.

Some top posts all round Here's a lad to keep an eye on. Not signed yet but watch this space http://www.myspace.com/kidharpoon and yes, I hate myspace too

I've had a quick peek. My house is 125ft up, so good for a couple more years, by which time I'm sure I will have cashed in on the huge price rises for homes at the tops of hills :D From my calculations Forest Hill station is 183 ft, and the Hornimann seems about as safe as you can ask for locally at 272 ft up!! You're laughing in Crystal Palace, the triangle being a mighty 367 ft up, isn't that a mountain in England?

> Lets get this right, the people who go into pubs and start fights and cause problems are not working class drinkers Noone said anything else. Noone mentioned class. I said people who enjoy fighting, James said chavs. Despite CWALD's protestations, chav isn't synonymous with working class. A chav is someone who will tick a number of the following boxes Young Wears burberry and/or big hooped earrings/and or white trainers/and or a tracksuit Terrible taste in cars and automobile accouterments Hangs around street corners in a menacing fashion. It was just a short lived national joke, it doesn't and has never meant working class, but some working class kids were more likely to go for the look, however I've seen plenty of middle class kids who seemed to think it was a good look. No doubt all of them from every background in twenty years time will look at old photos of themselves and wince. Now please please leave your class ridden chip off your shoulder. Sheesh!!!

cinema would be great, an other matter whether an independent one could flourish. I'm with F'n'B ;-) Short of that, independent music shop, but same issues as above (the cinema, not the lady bar).

Ha ha. Looks like the types who enjoy the punch up have finally drawn a line East Dulwich's proverbial sand, and will not be pushed out further. "No pasar?n" they're saying. Well you never know, they might.

>Just asked to borrow a copy from a friend for yet another attempt. You see, this is the Alan Carr method through and through. I'm convinced he's sowed the seeds of failure into this book, such that you need to keep buying it intermittently. Have seen Mrs Mockney 'succeed' using the book a number of times now. In the end I threw it in the bin (or she lost it somewhere if I'll be honest). She's going for the willpower method. I've always said you have to just stop in your head, it's the only real way, and ultimately you can't trick your own head, not even with all Alan's techniques.

thanks asset. She certainly was a mad as a fish!!

mockers' blasts from the past. The Cocteau Twins - Iceblink Luck lovely, none of this poncey pop-idolesque, ersatz Mariah Carey (and why would anyone want a real one let alone an fake one) vocal acrobatics. Just pure class.

I keep intending to try the dog on a non-sunday, but it's sunday lunches have long been the victim of their own popularity, particularly the watery gravy; bleagh enough places to go without having to suffer those again (dark horse anyone?). The BBQ was ok, but I guess it's not been fired up much this summer. I'm looking forward to checking the plough. Went occasionally up there to catch footie when everywhere else too packed, but it was, frankly, s**t.

Not to mention the Grove and quite possibly the Magdala. I did once have the dubious 'honour' of seeing the lesser spotted Jowell down the Hamlets. Courting the populist vote no doubt as it was around the last election.

There are loads and loads of second hand CD vinyl places up in camden, mostly on chalk farm road. Granted most of the stock is terrible, but you do unearth some real gems occasionally.

If anyone does have genuine knowledge about this area we'd probably appreciate some good advice as this forum has allegedly strayed into some grey legal areas where the poor administrator doesn't really know where he/it/we posters stand. I may be a dab hand at searching t'internet but legalese leaves me absolutely mystified.

One of the charming newer girls at Green & Blue used to work at NTV and told us some stories about the management that quite literally turned sean grey overnight!!

We actually used to use a stanley knife. It worked, but did the record no favours at all. Still, it was only Rattle & Hum, so no loss to the world there.

See threads passim for why NTV. Nothing to do with class or clientele, entirely to do with attitude of owner.