Sue

Just been to the Magnolia for the first time, it was/is lovely :) Great relaxed vibe, great wine, great beer, thanks Rose :)

I considered putting it on the previous thread, but that was specifically about card cloning, and this point would have been off-topic. I can see that maybe I could have omitted the word "again", but rather too late now :)

BlueOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In that case why would you inform a public forum > read by local people about "what could have been > an innocent mistake"? > >xxxxxx Because a) It might not have been an innocent mistake and b) If it was, then the person who made such a basic mistake as not giving somebody their cashback could well make that basic mistake with another customer. I therefore thought it worth sharing. For God's sake - I haven't identified the assistant in any way whatsoever, I haven't got a vendetta against Somerfield's, I am not suggesting everybody who works in a shop is a thieving working class dreg of society, I am merely suggesting that people be more careful than usual when getting cashback just in case they don't get given it, as that happened to me recently. Why didn't all these people come out and say similar things on the other very long thread on this forum where Somerfields was a leading player?? Edited to say I use the term working class because another poster did.

BlueOne Wrote: > Maybe I feel so strongly about it becauase I am > from a working class background, I still have > friends and family who work in shops and can > identify more with the shop workers than with you. > Again, sorry. I guess we will never agree on this > one. xxxxxx Excuse me ?!?!?! How do you know what my background is? I have also worked in shops! :-S

It's only "inflammatory" because some people have chosen to interpret it as such. I have reread my original post and think it is perfectly reasonable. I have already said, why would I speak to the manager or the police about what could have been an innocent mistake? The post does not identify anybody - going to the manager or the police would direct suspicion on a particular person. You think that would be better? I think it's more appropriate to suggest to people to be careful - whether a genuine mistake or not, the outcome is the same, you don't get your money.

Erm, I did remember, that's the whole point :) The person who asked me if I wanted cashback and handed me my receipt didn't remember, however.

Where is it?

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Typical, bloody Gemini. xxxxx :))

Jimbob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue, no matter how you try to defend your post, > you are insinuating that an employee of SF > engaged you in comversation in order to deprive > you of your cashback and no matter how many times > one reads the post it still reads the same way. xxxx Well obviously that was one way to interpret the situation, but not the only one. And yes, I said in a subsequent post that I was suspicious. It seems rather a waste of energy for me to keep reiterating what I've already said and for others to keep making the same points in response. Of course it could have been a genuine mistake, and I - and you - will never know. If I come upon anything which might be suspicious in the future, I'll make sure to keep it to myself. Then if everybody else does the same, we might all be a few quid down or there might be a few burglaries or murders but hey, at least we won't be accused of unfairly maligning other people whose behaviour might have been perfectly innocent :-S

BlueOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is too easy to make these sorts of allegations > in such a public way using this forum. If you were > serious about the complaint, you could have gone > to the manager or even the police, but you chose > to publicly cast suspcision on ALL the LL > Somerfield workers. > > The complaint is not even about Somerfield the > shop, but actually an allegation that one of the > individuals who works on the tills in LL > Somerfield is potentailly a thief. There are not > many people working on the tills in LL > Somerfield... xxxxxx Could I politely ask you to read the whole thread before saying that I am alleging anything? Thanks :) Edited to say: And why on earth would I have gone to the police when it could have been a genuine mistake?

Many florists don't seem to be able to spell the names of what they sell - I think it's one of the things you have to demonstrate to pass floristry exams, an inability to spell (actually I know this is a lie, I used to teach student florists plant idents, the poor things had to know all the Latin names :) ) Edited to change spell to sell :)

Let's be fair, they've taken what we've said on board and are actively looking to correct what's been done. I too used to have a negative opinion/stereotype of councils/the people who work for them based on some bad experiences, but I'm now working for Islington Council and I see a lot of very committed people working there. Then you get an incident like this - or like one I was told about last night at the Islington in Bloom awards ceremony where one of the award winners had her "forgotten corner" transformation slashed to the ground a week or so ago by a contractor who claimed it was on council property, due to be slashed, and there was nothing she could do about it. Now I've got to find out how on earth that could have happened and stop anything similar happening again, so I'm on the other side of the fence ..... :)

Hooray, we've found the mysterious ticket buyer - aren't forums wonderful! :)

One of the funniest things I've seen recently was in Liquorish at the weekend. They have a sign up, and the first two sentences are along the lines of "We are an independant (sic) bar. We pay great attention to detail." :)):)):))

:)) Well let's hope not :))

I've just been forwarded this. I'm intending going to the meeting if I can make it, suggest anybody else who feels strongly might like to do the same? ____________________________________________ From: Allison, Ursula Sent: 30 September 2008 13:56 To: '[email protected]'; 'Eileen Conn'; '[email protected]'; Kotecha, Bimal; Nardell, Gordon; Jones, Susan; Glover, Mark; Ward, Veronica; '[email protected]'; Alan & Lulu Chapman Cc: Sheaff, Jon; Whitehead, Anya; Thornton, Rosie Subject: Blake Mural meeting Hello All, I would like to propose that we meet on Wednesday 15 October at 6pm at the Blake Mural. The reason I'm suggesting it be held in 2 weeks time is to give us enough time to invite key stakeholders and interested local community members and advertise it to ensure a good turn out. Also, Anya Whitehead, the Arts and Heritage Manager has contacted Stan Peskett and asked for provisional costings for the work, so we should have heard back from him by then. We know that the local community ideally want the mural restored so unless this changes we can assume we do not need to consult on this. The purpose of the meeting is to to inform the local community about how we are going to go about restoring the mural. The plan so far is as follows: 1 Contact Dulwich Festival and owner of wall to gain permission to restore mural. 2 Discuss with original artist options for repairing the mural under his direction, including the possiblility of community involvement in this process. 3 Implement works. I will be putting up several posters around Goose Green and the Playground advertising this meeting. Please circulate this email to anyone who may be interested in attending. Kind regards, Ursula Allison Community Outreach Officer (Dulwich Area Parks)

Yes I believe there was some evidence, if you read the previous thread. And when my bank phoned to tell me my card had been cloned I mentioned Somerfield and they said "how did you know"?

We went there recently for a late breakfast, never been there before, had experience similar to Monniemae, had to wait about an hour because they said they were "busy", but there were only about three other (disgruntled) customers, one of whom was given the wrong order when it eventually came. They seemed to be trying to cook on the tiniest frying pan in the world. At first it was a joke as we waited and waited .. and waited .. then it became not a joke, as we had things to do and time ticked on ... and on ... and on ..... And sorry but it wasn't worth waiting for, I had been looking forward to the black pudding but it was horrid, and they had run out of bubble and squeak. Wouldn't go back there again. The caff next to the Palmerston seems much better value, and they will cook you things that aren't on the menu if you ask, like poached eggs (at least I don't think they're on the menu!) and their portions are enormous :)

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just to point out, it's not too late once you've > left the shop as the tills have to balance. xxxxx Yes of course, if it's a genuine error. If it's not and the till balances, there's no way anything can be proved either way. And now I really must work :)

Jimbob Wrote: > if you,re sooooooo concerned why not stick your > head back into somerfield and have a word with the > manager.(6)(6) xxxxxxxxx Because then that really would be making an accusation, wouldn't it? I'd rather give someone the benefit of the doubt - but I'm also suggesting people be aware of my experience. Last week I had my card out in Somerfield ready to pay, and a complete stranger came up to me and asked me if I was aware that many people in East Dulwich had apparently had cards cloned after shopping there. As it happened I knew that (mine was one of them) but if I hadn't known, I'd have been grateful to her for telling me. What's the point of a forum if you can't share things with other people which might be helpful? And now I have to go and work, I have a big day/evening at work tomorrow, and I won't be able to post again on this thread until very late tomorrow or Wednesday, so if I don't respond to your response, please don't read anything into it :)

All I'm saying is that an assistant in Somerfield did not give me my cashback despite having asked me if I wanted cashback a very short time before. And yes - I wasn't sure it was a genuine error as I don't usually find shop assistants making conversation after I've packed my bags and am about to go, when there is a queue waiting. That doesn't make it an "accusation". This has never happened to me before in years of getting cashback in shops. You used to have to initial the slip, does that not happen any more? I have started a thread about it because there appear to have been other problems relating to cards (cloning) where a common factor seems to have been that cards were used in Somerfield. I thought I had carefully worded the post. Just saying, if you ask for cashback make sure they don't forget to give it to you, that's all. I thought it was worth starting a thread, sorry if others don't think so. If you don't realise you've not been given the cash till you've left the shop, it's too late, isn't it? Edited to change some of what I'd written and also to say - it was a man who served me, not a woman as assumed above :)

If you're offered cashback in Somerfield - make sure they give you the cash. Luckily I realised yesterday while I was still at the till. Genuine error? I don't know. But the assistant was doing a lot of merry talking whilst I was about to leave with my shopping - to distract me from the fact he hadn't given me my cash? I don't know. I'd only just started using my card in there again, too :-S

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I live round the corner, walk down Whateley Road > fairly often, and I've never known it not be quiet > :-S xxxx Sweetgirl, I said I've never known it NOT be quiet :)

I live round the corner, walk down Whateley Road fairly often, and I've never known it not be quiet :-S

I've received another email from Bimal - here's an extract. ...I was contacted by the artist himself yesterday and have steered him towards the contacts that I gave to you. Fingers crossed this will assist to speed up matters and lend toward a touch up rather than deletion of the mural.