P'Rose I'm sorry you fely my comment to be dumb and to have no merit in this debate. I did think my 5p comment was at least worth a half mark? Regarding this strike, and following on from MM and Sean, the stance taken particularly by the union - although management are somewhat to blame - does get me very heated. It is unfortunately inevitable that the Royal Mail and Post Office will be privatised - I am not sure whether it will be as the same company or two distinct entities. That is the shape of it, Labour won't renege - they've been cosying up to big business for the longest while and others have invested on the back of stated government policy. The Tories are hardly likely to chnage this course of events. So, ipso facto, it is barring a huge change of sentiment from the massess a faite accompli (I hope you like my mix of Latin and French terms in the same sentence!). I may not agree with the policy but it is what it is. So as I see it, when the seas are rising you don't destroy or leave unattended your flood defences you fortify them. And, metaphorically speaking, that aint wot the unionz are doing. When competition arrives in full through the liberalisation of all postage and mail, the workers will eventually realise that the softly softly approach of management was actually a better tonic than the pill they will be made to swallow.