thebeard

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Beard, you are spouting a load of crap. > > My daughter knows one of the boys who has been > injured. He's a local lad, and not in a gang. I'm sorry to hear that he's a friend of daughter. I remember when I was young the lads who were most polite to my parents and parents of friends were often the ones who were most likely to get up to the worst activities, bullying stealing or worst. Is it possible your daughter?s friend is one of these lads? If he was just an innocent bystander then it is awful that he has been stabbed, but I find it very hard to believe someone would be attacked if they were just minding their own business. It will be interesting to find out what sparked the argument and the subsequent stabbing. How is it that these men are still walking our streets carrying knives?

shieldbuilding Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > mate, have you ever seen the face of a 14 year old > boy who has blood spurting from his neck? trust me > ...he looks like ...'a kid' ...a very scared kid > ...and its not pretty! Yea a kid who a couple of minutes before was a gangstaaaaa ready to stab anyone who looked at him funny or disrespected him. Even a 30 year old will look like a kid when they get stabbed. I know I start going all glazy eyed and become a child when I cut my finger with a kitchen knife. We all know these ?kids? have been failed miserably by our society. We do them no favours by allowing them to strut around and carry weapons.

They aren?t kids ????. they are maniac gangstaaassss! They stopped being kids by about 10 these days, by that age they have seen heard and been involved in more than most over 40?s have. Most of them are left at home alone whilst mum works 7 days a week some are looked after by the older sister / brother or granny or left at a friends house. Usually Mum doesn?t have a man in her life let alone the father of the gangstaaaa.. If she even knew who he was.?? The gangstaaaaa have seen every kind of porn imaginable and every kind of sick depraved movie and listened to hours of nonsense gangstaaa rap. At school they probably behaved like angels and learnt absolutely nothing which will be of any use in the real world. They know at a very early age they will never be able to buy the bling Rolex or the Lamborghini. They have been failed by their parents and by the education system doomed before they get to their teens. The authorities and PC nonsense fail them by not stopping and searching them for knives. I was in Paris a couple of months ago for one day and saw Police stopping and searching lots of youths on the metro probably 10 or so. In all my time in London on the tube and in the hood I think I?ve seen two stop and searches? Our Police are great when it?s all happened But dealing with these poor sad sorry gangstaaas before they kill each other They are sadly pathetic.

Amelie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @ TheBeard > > You do know that you can (and probably should) > make formal complaints to the Audit Commission and > the Committee on Standards in Public Life? If you are talking about the major works on my flat. Yes I'm sure, I should. Though I have no stomach for such things, I?m happier to just get on with more positive things in life. As from my own experience, in order to get a good result I?d need to exert 10 to 20 times the effort than it is worth to me. I would end up with it taking over a good chunk of my life. So I exert the effort towards things I know will give me a positive result. Like my attitude to parking tickets even if I get one unjustly, I?ll still pay it immediately, just so I can get on with my day. It depends how much value one puts on one?s own time effort and mind balance. If it were obviously clear-cut then I would take the time. But these things are rarely simple the chances of success or failure are never better than 50/50. My equation on this one would probably be. Put in ?20,000 worth of stress effort and time including in this loss of work positive attitude and work time etc.. To try to get back ?8,000 ?. Realistically end getting ?4,000 so I?d be worst off to the tune of ?16,000. Doesn?t add up. Unless I could go for costs of ?16,000 but that?s never going to happen. Cheers

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > So how is it that we were back to reasonable > traffic flow was it coincidence? > > Recession. WHAT ? The recession only started to impact in the middle of 2008. The traffic problems were in 2006 ?07. Pre recession?

skidmarks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > thebeard Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > It?s constant last time it was this bad, was > when > > Red Ken re-managed the traffic light systems to > > make us all wait on unfazed lights. > > What a load of arse. As a designer of these kind > of systems for the last 10 years i can assure you > we didn't one day get a message from old ken > saying rephase thre lights to piss off the big > beardy bastard on the east dulwich forum. You > should blame the chunts who drive through red > lights as the intergreen (safety period) has been > increased to take these knobs into account. They > think they're saving time jumpings the lights but > in the long run actually everybody is losing out > as the lost time (no traffic moving) at a junction > has increased. LOL Blimey So you?re one of those responsible. Hold on. Exactly why did London almost grind to a halt for 6 months? rephasing ? You say it was down to light jumpers ? So how is it that we were back to reasonable traffic flow was it coincidence? ??????. I wonder what would happen if we did away with all these millions of pounds worth of traffic light systems. Besides you being out of work. If we carry on as we are. There?ll be lights at every junction turning and cross road. Oh I just realised we are pretty much there now. Out of interest how much on average does each traffic light junction cost ???? 50k 100k 200k? What do we spend on such systems and is there any research that they help keep traffic flowing and so help keep motor vehicle fuel consumption and emmisions as low as possible? Is this information available to us the PUBLIC?

Wow indeed! Rule 170 So they are as good as Zebra crossings. It does say pedestrians need to look out for vehicles WHY ?? I?ve learnt something new today. Thanks I will in future walk across junctions at will in the full knowledge that I will be able to sue for full damages when I get run over. This could make me very rich only I may have a limp or worst??? Cheers

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Two words, effing filthy, spring to mind. > All butchers were once like the ones in Peckham and our parents and grandparents didn?t die of food poisoning. I haven?t heard of any local poisoning problems NO great Peckham meat disease or other local meat problem? I?m sure if there were a problem then Council would have closed down the shops? Food hygiene is one area Southwark are competent in.

sophiesofa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Having witnessed a butcher on rye lane unload raw > chicken directly into a shopping trolley in the > rain then push it up the high street to his shop I > certainly wouldn't buy meat from any of them. Yea that RAIN will kill you every time!

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I understood it that the pedestrian always has > right of way on our roads, unless they are > otherwise barred, e.g. on motorways. Are you some kind of LOONY ???? Where did you get that idea? You?re JOKING right ??? If you are talking about the new raised areas???/ I?ve noticed that pedestrians think that they have right of way on these raises areas, which have been placed at the entrance to street off of Lordship Lane. As far as I?m aware they don?t have right of way. That is what makes these raised areas very dangerous. THEY are NOT ZEBRA crossings. Many pedestrians amble across them as if they were. I thought it was due to arrogance.. But now I realise it is IGNORANCE.

Roads what Roads? We don?t have ROADS! What we have are RUTTED TRACKS with holes humps zigzag lines????. yes the odd patch of tarmac here and there. Mind you I?ve driven on smoother better-maintained tracks. It?s constant last time it was this bad, was when Red Ken re-managed the traffic light systems to make us all wait on unfazed lights. Our money has to be spent on several million pounds of unnecessary pavement road crossing and roundabout works otherwise they wouldn?t get any budget next year. It?s a pity it?s not spent on building a community swimming pool say where the old outdoor one was on Peckham rye. Or just not spent! These level crossing they are installing on Lordship lane will only be removed again in a couple of years when some new idea comes along and hey presto there goes another squillion quid of our money? What I really find hard to stomach is the tools the machinery and the pay for the guys who do the work adds up to a few thousand pounds yet the contractor charges us / the council or whoever millions ???????/ Wish I was the contractor! I wonder who?s getting the back hander ????

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I?m sure other councils are as bad if not worst. Lambeth was so corrupt I think they are still paying back their debts from the millions spent on works which were never done money which was basically stolen by employees and their contractor mates. I can?t remember if anyone was prosecuted and sent to prison though? In planning thanks to the government we have permitted development laws and the appeal system I can?t even begin to imagine how much pain we?d be in if they didn?t exist. Can you imagine what we?d be living in today if the Victorians had to put up with the local planning nonsense that we have to deal with today? As I?ve said before, if you think the MP?s have their snouts in the trough, the local authority employees make MP?s look like second-rate amateurs. With over sized departments and budgets that are spent on the basis of self-service rather than community service. Quite unbelievable! Even more unbelievable when one considers that we have little or no power to change it.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Possibly, it would depend on which had the greater > legal weight - a covenant or a listing. > > Don't attack me now beard, but I'm wondering what > on earth has happened to you to make property such > an inflammatory issue for you? covenant or a listing etc etc talk of such things means nothing ???. Huguenot I have been affected by a Southwark compulsory purchase order which caused my family many years of uncertainty my father has never recovered and the family business which had over twenty employees was never relocated and ceased trading, the amount paid out by Southwark following much negotiation was insufficient. Over many years I?ve have personal experience of local planning on my own homes and seen the impact local planning has had on friend?s family and neighbours. I went through an expensive and lengthy planning process for a loft conversion, after spending several thousand pounds it was refused I then discovered I was able to build under the government permitted development rules so the thousands I?d spent with planning professionals had been wasted. Why does the council planning department process such planning applications when they would come under the permitted development rules? I can only guess that it is to keep busy. I?ve struggled with neighbour?s objections and had planning refused when a neighbour opposite was granted the same loft conversion ? their neighbours didn?t object!? If neighbours object then the planning application will go to the council planning committee this lengthens the process. The rules are fine for large commercial planning applications but it is being used to decide planning on small residential extensions. WHY? I can only guess it is to keep the committee members busy and make them appear to be listening to the local residents. There are many other examples of such nonsense. Recently the government implemented new permitted development allowances which should allow us all more freedom to extend our homes but the council has interpreted the new rules in such a way as to further restrict some of the allowances we have. WHY? I have seen the impact of many of Southwark planning?s decisions. One example the one-way system in Peckham caused the collapse of the local community many of the shops on and just off of Peckham high street went bust and Peckham became a rather nasty filthy unfriendly place a no mans land, it is still struggling to recover. I?m a leaseholder of a period conversion flat, Southwark are the freeholder they manage the major works, I have been charged over ten thousand pounds for my half share of recent major works, works which in the real world would have cost two thousand pounds for my share. So I?ve been overcharged by eight thousand pounds, as has the taxpayer as a council tenant occupies the other flat and the council pay that half. The council contractor has carried out unnecessary works to the tune of sixteen thousand pounds! WHY. I can only guess that the contractor is giving the council employee who manages the contracts a brown paper envelope for agreeing to the twenty thousand pounds contract. A contract for twenty thousand pounds of other people?s money allows for a back hander to the council employee and the contractor a nice large margin of profit. I have attempted to fight this but there is no way I can win because interpretation of what was necessary work, there is little I can do to quantify what works were carried out by the contractor. I have little choice but to pay up or sell up. I?ll never win any argument with the council department of professional thieves / incompetents. I guess it could be as bad if it were an independent management company but unlikely. I like living in the area but overall Southwark council do not improve our quality of life. My personal experience has been one of a council, which takes a lot and gives very little back. Southwark appears to be over staffed with lazy incompetent employees. The quality of housing and the quality of planning and development in Southwark is poor. Southwark council?s committee members abuse their powers over the planning system. They restrict and delay the rights we all have to extend and build and add to our homes ?Because a few neighbours have nimby usually idiotic objections? this is wrong. Where residential homes are concerned they make the planning process a painful lottery where it should be practical fast and straightforward. I believe the quality of our housing is directly linked to the quality of our lives and Southwark?s process does nothing to improve the quality of existing housing or help it meet requirements of the local residents. Southwark?s mismanagement and poor implementation of the planning system has direct costly outcome, financial a psychological to all our lives, it is the one area where they have a very large impact on the quality of our daily lives and from my experience they get it wrong far more often than they get it right. The planning rules appear to be eased / manipulated to suit housing associations and supermarkets. Why? The Concrete House is a disgrace I doubt any other council could have made such a meal of it! I feel like I have spent years in planning for what should be very very simple extensions or loft conversions for no apparent reason other than to keep neighbours and the planners happy. One way or another I end up with what I applied for in the first place so why all the wasted time and dealing with non-planning non-professionals. Ah because I?m in the potty borough of Southwark where everyone gets a say on your business. WHY????? Hope that helps explain my inflamed attitude towards Southwark and planning. Cheers.

Amelie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The organisation really to blame here is the > Diocese of Southwark; it sold St Peter's Church > and its vestry (the Concrete House) separately in > order to make a quick profit. That should never > have been allowed to happen and everyone at the > time said so. The church has also in my opinion > not been entirely as well looked after as it > should have been, what was meant to be temporary > scaffolding on one of the buildings has now become > permanent and the grounds have never been properly > maintained. NO NO NO NO How can you blame the seller ???????? Ridiculous nonsense! Southwark Council are entirely to blame. They alone had the powers! But as with so much Southwark Council touches it was incompetently handled! They Blight our lives with their incompetence. IF we only knew the half, of their incompetence and wasteful ways.

Politicians only care about educating THEIR OWN children as we have all seen. Private education for politicians precious ones? Consecutive governments couldn?t give a DAMN about non-academic children. WHERE are our technical colleges???? Where are the trade colleges? Unlike Germany and France, WE have no structured respected technical institutions to educate the children who are better with their hands than their brains. There is no reason for companies to train up apprentices. What do the lower achieving kids have little to look forward to other than working in Sainsbury?s stacking shelves or signing on for job seekers allowance and joining a local gang? There is no aspiration for them to become anything. We can?t even teach kids the basics of running their own business ? Basics like organising time, materials, and schedualing. Never mind understanding self-employed taxation And worst basic maths working out areas and lists. For example. Geography taught here doesn?t include learning the map of the UK or the globe no tough tests for students requiring them to trace the outline and plot major cities around the UK let alone Europe and the rest of the world. The majority of our children are and have been falling behind the rest of the world for many years. It would appear that politicians only care about the very bright and their own kids. We should offer something for every child then maybe we?d have a more civilised society with fewer feral youths and a halt to a generation of uneducated families who could benefit the whole of society rather than drag us back towards the Middle Ages.

Our geniuses would never be able to work out such a simple play with language. They?d struggle to remember it for starters. As they struggle with simple words in the English language Imagine The English equivalent ?Revlang? ?? Bitch = Chbit Gangster = Stergan Gun = Nug I is gonaa get mit nug from mi chibit co I is a well Stergan LOL

Cerebrum? I think it may be another part of the brain, which manages anxiety and stress??? Maybe they have their brains in their privates which would explain all the holding and scratching??? init ... B)

Cor edumacation ? It amazes me how often we see new ideas for education, single sex schools academies new curriculum?s it?s constant change in the education system from one school year to the next its change change change. We have no idea if it?s better or worst because we can never judge by the same standards or curriculum. Now this academy BOYs only ??? why ??? Wouldn?t we be better off with some sort of specialist school for non-academic?s who are the biggest problem in our dysfunctional society. Possibly teach them to be organised tradesmen. Rather than add yet another school, single sex at that, which offers what schools like Charter already offer?? The building looks great but the Educational direction is most likely going to be the problem. Too much emphasis on the higher end rather than tackling the real problems in the dispossessed and despondent strugglers who should be given opportunities in other areas and directions. Silly looking old-fashioned uniforms too. Victorian values for the modern age no doubt. It worked when we had an empire. But Today ???

Must be wonderful to have such a small cerebrum that you don?t get anxiety or stress. It?s like well, well wicked init ????..

And you all though I rambled on and spoke a load of nonsense ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? LOL

What EVERrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrR Though I don?t know what Iraq and mps expenses have to do with this DO you work for Southwark because you appear to have the same twisted view of reality.?? NOTHING will convince me that the professionals involved did a competent job, regardless of what the owner did or didn?t do they have been unable to stop the property from rotting away. Will anyone get the sack for this incompetence NO. All of those who believe that the house should be saved should be very angry at the way the council have handled this. If the owner didn?t have the money (and I?m not sure he should have been paying all the costs of the restoration anyway???) then the council should have stepped in far far sooner. They alone had the power to make this happen and quite simply they did not. Whether it?s because of the reasons I mention ie job creation or incompetence who knows. If the council are not powerful or competent enough then the relevant government department should be responsible and not the local council. The council look like a bunch of chumps who have been given the run around by the owner.

Moos Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So... you conclude from the fact of the owner > failing to comply with regulations that it was the > regulations' fault? > > Was this you at school? > > Teacher - Beard Mi, come here. Did you or did you > not punch Moustache Ma. in the nose during break? > Beard (snivelingly) Wasn't my fault, Miss, his > nose got in the way of my fist! LOL But you haven?t understood. And you?ve twisted what I have written. It would appear the planning permission was poorly drafted. Most probably down to planning department incompetence. The owner should not have been able to carry out the new development until he/she had restored the concrete house. Whatever way you cut it the PLANNING SYSTEM has FAILED Otherwise we?d all be benefiting from this FANTASTIC concrete HOUSE NOW! Ahhh the JOY we?d be having looking at such a wonderful architectural JEWEL!!!! THE added value to the WHOLE of Dulwich would be felt as a warm glow over the whole area it?d be sugar in the visual air, candy for our eyes. When it is eventually RESTORED I hope it is every thing it is cracked up to be! And I HOPE it is worth every penny. It will need to be rather special to make up for the Disgusting sight we have had to endure for the last OMG many years. Though I FEAR it will be a costly WHITE ELEPHANT.

themaninblack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > thebeard Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I use Capitalised words in a semi random WAY > for > > the fun of it and to SOFTEN the blurb blurb of > my > > ranting!!!!! > > Why capitalise the "Capitalise"? For my money it's > not a proper noun. For your ranting to gain an > ounce of my respect you should at least use the > language properly. > > My opinion: > I pay tax like everybody else and this seems money > well spent to me. It's much more useful than the > speed humps they construct randomly across our > borough. WHO caRES about Capitals SssSSS ? My grammar and speiling are far worsterrr Yes it's a great way for our money to be spent it justifies the existence of the conservation department and keeps the specialists employed. Charming bunch of people worth every penny for the added value to our lives. It gives us a dilapidated house on a plot of land which could have otherwise been used lived in / on. It isn?t as if we need more housing? Personally I?d rather my TAXES were spent on stopping the TESCO METRO on East Dulwich Road from erecting a most DISGUSTING timber fence for BINS and waste etc topped off by concentration camp style rotating spiked anti climb bars. Now if the conservation people and the planners could sort out that kind of visual Poo then I?d be happy to pay rather than live in an area which is visually Disgusting in parts dilapidated concreted Cancer house included.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So you're aware beardy, the purchaser was aware of > the listed status at the time of purchase, and the > second building meets all planning requirements. > No I was not aware thank you for enlightening me. > In fact the planning permission on the new > property was conditional on the restoration of the > concrete house. WHY didn?t the planning permission have a condition that the restoration of the concrete house be carried out before the building of the new property? Poorly drafted? > So the purchaser was highly cynical in his > approach to the house, and quite deliberately let > the concrete house go to rack and ruin in order to > force through the building of apartments on the > land. As above Poorly drafted planning and not enough legal pressure on the owner to make good his agreement. > Are your views on the house specific to this > building, or do you not believe in the entire > listing process and/or maintenance of our cultural > history? I believe there is very good reason to properly manage our architectural heritage I find that in situations like this the system is impotent and should have more powers to move swiftly in order to stop exactly this kind of abuse. Though it would appear that the poorly drafted planning has left the door wide open. > Despite your concerns about government, we don't > live in a fascist state, and the delays over the > compulsory purchase are entirely in line with our > democratic systems, and the desire to give full > opportunity to the owner to make good on the legal > agreement. Government is supposed to serve the people BUT many many departments only serve the people at a small fraction with the major function being to serve those who work in the government departments. Compulsory purchase should be a swift process; reasonable prices and a premium should be paid to give fair compensation to the owner. From what I have see and heard it is abused by the council, areas are run down and relative values are forced down in order for the council to unfairly purchase the land and property a discount, it?s a disgraceful practice. The property becomes blighted with the owner unable to sell and they are left battling the council for a fair price, never mind a premium for the inconvenience and hassle. > The owner was deliberately evasive on the subject > of the repairs, claiming that things were > underway, and obfuscating the issue to the point > of making himself unavailable - 'gone away' - to > prevent legal papers being served on him. Again if the planning for the new development had been property drafted the situation would not have occurred. Is there no other legal way of dealing with such a situation? If not then there SHOULD be! I stand by my views that the planners are as much to blame as the owner it is a total DISGRACE a fine example of Professional planning incompetence.