Otta

The son in the UKIP family is annoying me a lot less this season. I wonder if he watched some episodes and realised he was coming across as a bit of a twat.

Marianne Faithful reckons she inspired the main lyric. Everyone wants a piece of it. By the way, if you've not read "Faithful", you should. Really entertaining read with some great stories. I've never played Wild Horses in open G tuning. I've never actually played anything in open G (or D) tuning. I should mess about with some alternate tunings one of these days.

And one of my favourite songs of all time.

Here's the Trump thing I was talking about, as an example. http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/

This site is always useful for fact checking http://www.snopes.com/

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Come on Otta. Name one stranger thing than that! Them winning the PL a season after nearly being relegated? Donald Trump being on the verge of becoming president of the USA?

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What's with the girly ribbon BS ? > Whether your point is valid or not, getting all > anti-men about it is surely a needless sidetrack. Not sure there was any anti men stuff, but I too thought WTF when I was the "silly girly / hair ribbon" stuff. It's like the over use of this word "mansplaining". Now I am sure that there are plenty of men who talk down to women in a patronising tone and "mansplain", I don't doubt it for a second. But equally I've found recently that it's been used to just shut me down when I am disagreeing with someone on facebook. I explain my opinion and why I think their opinion is wrong. Which is how debate and discussion works. I then get "thanks for mansplaining", which basically shuts the debate down and paints me as a cunt. Sorry, totally off topic, but so what.

Good example of this recently. I'd taken my kids to a birthday party, and a couple of mums were chatting about Donald Trump. One of them said she'd seen a quote of his from the 90s where he said something like "if I ever ran for president it would be for the republicans because their supporters are stupid and easily manipulated". I'd seen the same thing, but I looked it up on snoops and sure enough there is no prof he ever said that. He certainly never said it in the magazine that it was claimed he'd said it in. Now don't get me wrong, I am all for anything that harms Trump (vile man), but I did find it interesting that this made up quote was now being discussed by two intelligent women, and was basically now accepted as fact. I am sure I've swallowed a few "facts" in my time too. I think the trick is to just ignore anything that you see on a meme on social media. Sorry if I'm repeating what has already been said, haven't had time to read all the posts.

Meanwhile "Leicester are the first team in Champions League history to keep clean sheets in their first four games." That's pretty impressive. I wish I'd ad my bet on them going down but winning the CL. Stranger things have happened.

Shameful? Giving our elected parliment the right to vote on the terms of brexit is shameful? You realise one of the cheif complainants was a leave voter? This won't stop brexit, but it will stop this government just doing whateber the hell they want.

I just say "thanks, but I have my own faith which I'm comfortable with" (not really true, but hey). They tend to take that in good humour and move on.

Hoddle over Gazza and Bale? Really?

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Surely vested interest on both sides of the > argument make it intrinsically personal. And it's > looking like an irreversible move, so more > significant than other elections/referendums (in > England at least) in memory. > > Then the remainers accusing leavers of shady > motives (ignorance, nationalism, xenophobia). And > leavers resenting being called ignorant racists... This ???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Because 52% of the pop have been labelled thick > racists > > and 48% as cry baby elites > > Both a bit laughable And this I admit in the immediate aftermath I felt angry at people who had voted us out. What I think is causing a lot of the problems now, is the sneering attitude of certain remainers like David Davis, as well as rags like The Sun. There has been zero effort to build bridges and reassure those with real concerns. Instead they are being called moaners / unpatriotic and all sorts of other nonsense. We need high profile people from both sides to come out and talk like grown ups, reassuring people, and saying that actually it IS okay to voice doubts and hold a government to account over what is effectively the biggest thing to happen to a UK government in years and years and years.

Danny Ings out for the rest of the season with a knee injury. Such a shame, I think he has real quality, bit it looks like he'll be one of these players that never gets a real run of fitness.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jah Lush Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > What gets my goat are the Bet365 adverts with > > professional cockney actor Ray Winstone > especially > > when he says: "And I bet responsibly." Yeah, > > right. I want to kick him up the arse every > time > > it comes on, which is during every commercial > > break when the football's on. Grrr! > > > That and that ex Liverpool player doing property > investment forums > > You know the one, Robbie fat lips ham head. To be fair, he does actually know a bit about property investment.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What really amuses me is that now, in places like > Wilko, you can get glasses made to look like jam > jars, complete with metal lids and holes punched > in the lids for a straw :)) Actually, I'd never thought of the lid / straw thing. That could actually make more sense if you were at a festival or somewhere you might spill drink. But in a bar? Nah.

I wonder if he owned any Escher. After Labyrinth it would have seemed apt.

DovertheRoad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Things that have happened / been achieved since > the Dog shut for refurbishment: > > - a whole police station was knocked down, site > cleared and a new school built successfully on > time/budget > > Any others? I'll bet that had two fellas been chatting at the bar over a pint on the last night it was open, and one had said "by the time this place reopens, Donald Trump could well be president of the USA". He'd have been told he'd had enough and should probably be moving on.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > When is a jam jar a beer glass? > > In 2012 I think > > MeatLiquor or that Diner thing they did way back > in the day had them, there after it's just wankery > and need knocking on the head. Only place I've had it (being as I don't visit anywhere remotely trendy) was The Communion Bar in Camberwell, when I went to see a friend play some music. Nice bar, I liked the surroundings, but the offerings from the bar were a load of wank served in bottles, or dirty looking jars if you asked for a glass.

*Nigel*

Took him long enough to get 10k.

The guy on the left?

When is a jam jar a beer glass?

And Papa Lazarou's alter ego worked in the charity shop *shudders*

It's still a pub fox. They have a bar, they sell pints of beer. Whether it's a pub that you like or not is a completely different matter. It's a place I wouldn't bother with if I didn't have kids if I'm honest. But it's handy in the summer for a pitstop pint in the garden. Probably only go there a couple of times a year. But at least they have the space for kids, so it doesn't feel like they're running around your feet. Unlike somewhere like the Herne.