Otta

I like the three young black guys. They're new aren't they?

The way I read it, he wasn't talking about coming back to Labour.

Interesting to see Sterling pulled out of England squad through "injury" (no details of which have been given). Suspect his manager is protecting him from it, thinking his confidence still needs building up more. I do rate him (to a point), but for what ever reason it's just not clicking when he's with England. Though to be fair to him, no one really clicks with England. But at least Wayne the conqueror is still there to lead us to glorious mediocrity.

Especially given the way they lost at the weekend. They worked very hard, and it took a late penalty to beat them. Harsh indeed!

Saffron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I took this thread as a bit of a lighthearted > grumble. Which is exactly what it was. Up to a point ;-)

Fair play to Spurs today. Much as I was hoping for a draw (from a Liverpool perspective) you have to say hats off. It is much more interesting now that there are 6 or maybe 7 teams with genuine top 4 potential. It got so boring for a while when it would be the 2 manchesters, chelsea and Arsenal year in year out. Leicester will be nowhere near this year (as we all knew they wouldn't be), but Liverpool and Spurs will I think give it a proper push. From a Liverpool point of view, it's great to see them get results from Hull and Swansea, especially when they came form behind yesterday. Those are the sorts of games we've often lost after big wins. Long may it continue.

And "baby mama". Just no.

Haha, I want to headbutt a wall every time I see "hun" on facebook. "What's up hun?" Probably you calling her "hun". But the "mummies" thing really winds me up (and I'm a bloke, so really shouldn't pay it any attention, but I can't help it. "To all my mummy friends" / "us mummies are such busy bees" Fuck off fuck off fuck off!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaaaand breathe.

I meant the England Manager job. Although to be honest, if I was on that sort of money I doubt I'd be desperate to get more.

I've not seen it yet, but sounds as though it was a well delivered speech. Owen Jones, who has been very outspoken against his leadership recently, says he's relaunched his leadership with that. Other journos say it was a good speech, but won't have really talked to anyone outside of Labour.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > You are in a minority, or trolling, one of the > > two. > > In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, > /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on > the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting > people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or > off-topic messages in an online community.... > > I'm not. The guy was stitched up. He was also very > silly considering how much he wanted the job in > the first place. If it wasn't for the media he > would still be in a job. Who knows what England's > longest serving manager Walter Winterbottom, got > up to? He was stitched up, and he has called it entrapment. But the fact is, this is when tested he failed miserably. If I was in a ?3m a year job, I wouldn't be meeting with any "businessmen" that my employers hadn't told me to meet, end of. He'll be remembered as the England Manager that felt it wasn't his place to tell the players he was managing where to play.

Trolling Quids for sure. PS. Only teasing with the snob comment. I like the Castle to a point, but the beer selection is shit unless you're on Guinness, and it's not the sort of place you'd take someone that wasn't a very good pal.

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They are calling for deselection of people whose CLPs > would never deselect them. I have this argument > with them all the time. I think you're right. Take Heidi Alexander. After the work she did for Lewisham Hospital, I would be absolutely gobsmacked if her CLP deselected her. But Momentum would like her gone without a doubt.

Snob

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Chuka > > Sadiq > > Jarvis > > Lewis > > Cooper > > My Corbyn-mad associates on other social media > have called for for every single person on this > fairly reasonable list of fairly reasonable people > to be strung up on gibbets (metaphorically, and in > some cases, actually) over the last few weeks and > months. > > That's what Labour is up against internally at the > moment. Indeed. Even I have had harsh words to say about Chuka (not recently, but I did think that having dropped out of the race last year he had a bit of a cheek slating Corbyn so much). But for the most part I like him. But yes, as you say, all of them will be seen as the top "red tories" / Blairites, so they won't be getting much support from the Corbyn hardcore.

Yeah if it's on anywhere it would be the castle.

Let's hope not. Chuka Sadiq Jarvis Lewis Cooper All people that might fancy a crack at the top job once we're through this crazy storm...

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Indeed Otta. And that 40% can not be ignored. > There is one key difference though. Corbyn this > time won in all three areas, membership, > affiliates registered supporters. Last time, he > failed to get to 51% amongst the membership. Last time was a 4 horse race though, so not surprising the membership vote was more split. Being as loads of people have joined specifically because of JC (and I agree that's a good thing) he was always going to smash this. I'm just glad Smith got close to 40%. Had it been closer to 80/20, I'd have been absolutely gutted. Knowing that 40% don't want Corbyn does at least give me some hope for the future.

Blame BFS.

And let's not forget, Smith (who I think we can all agree, is a bit shit) managed to get nearly 40% of the vote. So although Corbyn's win was impressive, 4 in 10 voted to get him out (I am quite confident that most Smith voters were voting "anyone but Corbyn" rather than FOR Smith). There is still some sanity within the party.

I think the media have treated him very poorly. But equally. seeing rendel try to defend the submarine "idea" is just funny. And seeing the use of the word "rightist" to describe someone that has just pointed out that a Corbyn idea was stupid, is typical.

I see Quids has been working undercover for the Telegraph.

I actually would love to see the media treat him kindly, and the Labour MPs get behind him and do what he asks. Then there would be no excuses to hide behind.

Please stop it http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/media/baby-bullshit-websites-weirdly-using-mama-instead-of-mum-20160926114409

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I think a lot of people want decency and honesty > in politics and politicians, instead of > self-serving spin and lies. > so why are they voting for Corbyn and McDonnell? Both have proven that they lack decency when it comes to it. And they use as much spin as anyone else, it's just that their version involves telling everyone that they don't. I am really really torn about staying in the party, and I am bloody fed up with comments like "it's either Corbyn or various shades of tory" (as was said to me on social media earlier). That attitude shows a complete contempt for discussion or debate. Our way or the highway seems to be the Momentum way.