What bugs me most about edcam, Louisa and co is not the ?bants?, but the sheer level of ignorance and/or lies and misinformation Louisa is in complete knots over her own definitions of what is ?proper? food and what is ?poncy? The pizza example is just hilarious ? despite being demonstrably physically wrong (follow Louisa?s ?recipe? and see how close to pizza that gets you), she still uses it as an example of of pretentious, aspirational types will buy any old iron. And yet, and yet ? who IS buying pizza? It?ll be everyone from the unemployed up to super-rich footballers. Aspirational it ain?t And then edcam with his ho ho ho ? Then all you need is a Twitter account, some pies from Manze's and a bit of tin foil and you're off.? ?Because THEY ARE THE SAME THING YOU MUPPETS!!? is the unsubtle subtext Any customer can have a look and see the difference (feel free to prefer one over the other ? it realy doesn?t matter, what?s important is that you can see they aren?t the same thing at all) Are the pies on the van more expensive than Manzies in any case? All lies and misinformation simply to point fingers, guffaw and name call (side-effets being derailing a potentially interesting thread and allowing the notion that the EDF is for loony toons only to solidify)