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Chicory is where it's really at el pibe

Reminder. Louisa you don't like Peckham. Not just the station but the whole street You don't like the people who live there now and you don't like the people you predict will move in after Maybe the problem isn't the current lot or the next lot. Maybe it's you

Talking about oneself in third person = freaky Posting not once (could be accidental) in the completely wrong section but twice is both annoying and speaks badly of a clairvoyant's ability

MrBen T'were always this with Louisa. Have a look at some classic 2007 threads

Alan. Throwing litter is rude. Eating shouldn't be

Louisa - even by your standards that is incoherent, rambling bollox " I'm constantly reading about the bemoaning of chicken shops and bookies making an area seem 'grotty' or 'unattractive'. How do you think such comments make the patrons of those places feel? It's sheer snobbery. " By constantly reading, do you mean constantly writing? It is you who posts the most about how ghastly Peckham is. Anyone tries to defend it and you jump down their throats. To put it in your words: " How do you think such comments make the patrons of those places feel? It's sheer snobbery. " " I do not need to 'stoke' any said class fires." erm, yes, you do. If you didn't you would barely post on here "The middle-class arty trendy suburbanites" - does that even mean anything? And I'm not belittling the menu or decor of any pie and mash shop. but it is YOU who decided to talk aboutprice differential with working class food and I'm just pointing out the parity in pricing. There isn't really any difference. "a market stall selling a burger with organic written in fancy writing is perfectly acceptable." why would it not be? I don't subscribe to organic movement myself (generally speaking) but given recent horsemeat and general process food scandals, it does mean SOMETHING

8 to 12 quid mark. In a restaurant. Stalls "not far off that mark" so... 6 quid? Double double pie and mash for 7 quid. Again, what's your problem?

See?

Louisa is deliberately conflating pub burger prices with street food just to muddy the waters. God forbid she should stick to like for like

I suspect they were overlooked, not by the middle classes, but by their customer base when supermarkets am maccie d became widely available. But whatevs Can always rely on Louisa to stoke those class fires. Not so much agent provocateur as militant class war shite. Where was the Kennedy "deli" or manzes in se22. Oh no wait they were in more working class walworth and camberwell. But it's middle classes that did for them is it? Last time I was in a pie and mash they were looking for a tenner for a t/t/t. Plenty of food but not really cheaper than a burger and chips.

All of a sudden eh? Really.. what year did you find yourself unable to partake of these foodstuffs? Long before this area was gentrified (in part ) there was precious little of it So go on then. What year.

And if you did decide to sell eels you'd find it hard to deal with ever scarcer eel population Louisa... Before the current street fodo thing (last few years)how far back do we have to go to find it commonplace in south london? Because I remember sweet fa in the last 30 odd years And why do your working class brethren on this very thread appear to be so down on the very concept of eating from a van (wont someone think of the hygiene issues!!!). If it was so commonplace and all..

the website does state it's not official and will charge a fee - but it's not in big text, and it's not in the red callout NB text. It's in a relatively chunky block of text which I'm guessing many people skim-read if at all, assuming all else looks ok having looked at the large, bold and coloured text It's there, but it's cheeky IMO

what has this got to do with street food foxie?

Always intentional - another mate used to love his mojitos

nope - I've had a few good nights there too MrB

just waitin for that day to arrive EP!

White Hart is nice enough but it's the same M&B template that gives you Plough/Phoenix in SE22. So, same food and beers

KK - if you are on the Fleet St side of Ludgate circus, I asume you've been up to Leather Lane for Daddy Donkey burritos and that other street food?

I'm sure there are some people who go because it's "uber cool" but ultimately very few. It's YOU who is sticking labels edcam et al people go because it's a lot tastier and not much more expensive than the shite in pret/eat/greggs and the rest of them iTake my example of rib man - go buy one of his rib rolls - ?6. taste the fekking thing. Now tell me where I can go to buy that amount of food, for that price, with that taste your example is ginsters? It's an embarrasing argument. You are streotyping, sneering and not even trying to understand. People still go to fish and chip shops or sandwich shops - basically street food ("open or wrapped love?") - but you aren't banging on about them as for hygene, one of the stallholders posted on the link I quote above: "Hi As a food vendor on North Cross Road market, I would just like to explain the measures we put in place to ensure the food is safe. All food vendors should be registered with the Food Safety Team - and are then subject to inspection of both their kitchen facilities and their stall conditions and practices. They should also have a level 2 food hygiene certificate which ensures that they are aware of all the precautions that need to be taken to ensure that food is safe. We are required to fill out records of cooking, cooling and reheating times, core temperatures and refrigeration and freezer temperatures. Food kept at the stall therefore needs to be kept either in a fridge or a coolbox, with a temperature below 8 degrees. Small amounts of cold food should be put on display at any one time, and topped up with food from the coolbox/fridge. Hot food needs to be kept at a minimum temperature of 68 degrees - so hot food vendors should have a food thermometer to hand. The last thing we would want to do is put our customers at risk of food poisoning, so we take extreme in care in adhering to the rules in keeping food out of the 'danger zone'. Obviously, we can't speak for other traders, but I did just want to reassure our customers that our food is perfectly safe! "

edcam - your posts are just proving how far away from grasping the point as is possible

titch - this argument has been had many times on here. You can explain about the stringent checks and H&S rules the stallholders have to follow (rules, which if the moaners were talking about something else, would have them complaining about excessive red tape) this threaad has some lurid scare stories http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,542431,page=1 but fortunately the food and the number of people buying it speaks for itself and we ignore the ignorati I work at Blackfriars so I try and get up to Kings Blvd near Kings X station for some Rib Man action a couple of times a month. I've seen the mexican van from North X Rd market there a few times as well

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Annette... Leave ted alone

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