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I suspect the conflicts of interest are much wider and deeper than first suggested. A bit like the MPs expense scandal, don't you think, sneaky Loz? ETA: you have to go to Lords number 34,54 or 60 to see any Diageo or Vodafone references out of the first 62 Lords. So much for your insight, Loz.
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Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > El Pibe Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Hmm, and whilst some of these are tenuous, taken > as a whole it begins to hum a little. > > Tenuous doesn't even begin to describe some of > them - I mean, 'has shares in Vodaphone group'? > Whoopee doo. > > I went through the 62 Tory lords listed (couldn't > be bothered to do them all) and only 18 I would > count as having anything approaching a meaningful > relationship with the companies listed, based on > the information given. > > My favourite, which was used twice, was "Shares in > Diageo plc an alcohol drinks company who have been > awarded money to teach midwives in England and > Wales on the dangers of alcohol. No, you can't > make it up." Ironically, I think that is pretty > much what the article authors did, if they think > that is a serious enough link to sway a lord's > voting intention. Sneaky Loz, how you define what constitutes a meaningful relationship is neither here or there. The article is very clear on where there are conflicts of interests amongs the Lords.
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Liverpool have some very good youngsters but I can't see the team being premiership contenders in the next five years. Teams like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham are widening the gap between Liverpool because of their youth policy and wealthy backers. That's the problem, whether you agree with it or not, Liverpool will always play catch up to the big five. As Liverpool improves, the other teams will as well from their position of strength. Also, Liverpool were fortunate enough to beat the mighty* Cardiff in the mickey mouse cup. But there are still big names left in the FA cup to win it. Is the mickey mouse cup good enough for the Liverpool fans? Liverpool are not a top five side and so will not gain revenue from Champion League games and bolster their squad accordingly in the future. Realistically, Dalglish needs to be given five years to develop their young players before Liverpool becomes a top side again. * sarcasm ;-)
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Ministers lied to push through NHS reforms, Labour peer claims
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My parents encouraged me to drink from an early age as they felt that people who starts drinking later in life do not do so responsibly. I wonder if anyone else thinks along the same lines? I do find it strange that the Tories, who always accused Labour of being interferring nannies, produced their own nanny state policy on alcohol. Whatever happened to their mantra - personal responsibility?
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Whitecross Street market does a mean Chorizo sausage burger filled with roasted red pepper and chilli sauce. Definitely rate the William Rose's sausages over the Watrose's offerings.
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I buy my beef sausages from the Nunhead butcher. Nice clean tasting sausages with none of the gunk which comes outs during the cooking process.
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OMG, next generation of banking idiots upon us. ETA: This is how the banking crisis starts (with idiots).
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grabot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My comments are based on my memories too, rather > than an knowledge of music or history. But, I do > have a sketchy memory of my cool friends, they > wore Italian tracksuits and the like, moving > seamlessly from hip hip to house and I recall > hearing similarities between them at the time. I > didn't, however grow up amongst London hipsters , > Chicago house didn't make it up north and I was > listening to rubbish at the time; a big part of me > feels that I missed out! My apparently > controversial statement was designed to elicit a > response as I am interested in people's personal > experience of this period, rather than a dry > historical treatsie. Also, loved the 30's rap, > amazing. I grew up in South East London and hardly saw anyone wearing a pork pie hat. With regards to the London hipsters I guess everything in our culture was so organic. We didn't have marketing idiots like Hugo telling us what was good. The street fashion and music just evolved organically. I do remember the Italian tracksuits such as Fila and Sergio Tacchini but again their novelty had worn off by the mid eighties. Trainers were also better made. Thinking back, I guess it was our generation who created the current youth culture. We were the first to electronic video games, bmx, skateboarding, hip hop, street wear fashion, house music, etc. These days, youngsters are spoon fed by marketing idiots and it's such a shame. You see groups of youngsters wearing identical clothing. What is wrong with having a bit of individuality? Music is far to commercial and lacking in creativity. And labels means nothing these days with the infiltration of marketing idiots. @titch juicy - no, grabot made the fatal error when he said 'paid in full' laid the foundation for house.
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The race to the premiership title and champions league places is getting exciting. Interesting to see if Spurs get fourth place over Chelsea and sets up nicely for their clash this weekend. Man City appears to have some fight in their belly and I'd expect the title race to go to the wire.
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Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > UDT - your standard of debate maintains its usual > mixture of abuse and lies. In common with your > fellow travellers you seem unable to present an > argument setting out your case for blocking > reform. > > As I have said before I have no financial interest > in the outcome of the Bill. I do have an interest > in seeing an improved and more efficient NHS. Your > continued insinuation that I am motivated by money > is insulting, boring and libellous. There is nothing libellous in what I'm saying, Marmora Man. It is not unreasonable to think that you could benefit from the changes in the NHS. The NHS reforms are about increasing the private sector involvement.
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The lying scums, known as the Tory party, hardly do debate, MM. Anyway, perhaps you'll get some extra money your way and build more Marmora manions.
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May I remind you, Hugo, it was you who moved the goalpost by introducing the unions into this debate. I can't see a connection with the Mirror and the unions over the NHS Bill. So my advice to you is to get over your union phobia. If you want to promote rational assessment then by all means argue your point without mentioning the unions. I suppose this would be difficult for you as you can't do rational debate. :))
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Here's the original footage. They look like gangsters, under the guise as preachers, to me. ;-)
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Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My complaint was against a campaign of > persecution, defamation and smear based on snide > insinuation. So says the master of this despicable tactic. Using the unions as a barrier to the NHS Bill seems like a simplistic type thinking, drawn from the Tory's chest of excuses. Are you seriously telling me that our Doctors,up and down the country, are unable to think for themselves without union help?
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grabot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rakim is the G.O.A.T. Fair play djkq, imho 'paid > in full' laid the foundations of house. 1986, my > mates are break dancing down town to Rakim et al. > 1987, they switch seamlessly to house, year zero > for dance music. > > Hip hop in general. Nas, wu tang clan, talib > kweli, outkast,kanye,lupe fiasco, pharoahe monch. > All good in the hood. Trying to rewrite history doesn't quite cut it with me, grabot. To say 1987 was year zero for dance music showed a lack of knowledge for dance music in general. Even in 1987. Rakim had nothing to do with house music. Not even laying its foundations. His music was hardly ground breaking in 1987 and far too commercial for my own taste. Break dancing happened in London during the early eighties. Well before 1987, breakdancing was passe in the clubs. jelly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Urgh. I can't stand 'gangsta rap'. It's larded > with aggression and misogyny. Hardly the kind of > thing you should play around young and/or > impressionable kids. Worse than that, rap producers sampled the classic tunes in order to gain musical integrity. I'm sure you won't agree with what I've just said. But then, I still have my huge pile of Blues & Soul magazines and music collection to backup my extensive knowledge of music around the time. Argue at your peril.
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PeckhamRose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Was the opening section > of them coming out of what is now the > SortingOffice off Rye Lane? Not sure! I think it's the Southwark Town Hall, before they added the art deco features, on Peckham Road. At 1min and 30 secs, I believe the women are in Havil Street where you can see the number 12 Bus and the green space next to Lucas gardens in the background.
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Relaxed Sunday Shopping rules during Olympics.
Undisputedtruth replied to DulwichFox's topic in The Lounge
I know Threadneedleman. Savile Row trained. I went to school with two of his cousins. He is also related to Kieron Dyer, the former England player. Threadneedleman used to be based in Peckham before he moved to Walworth Road. His suits are fully canvassed and he does all the cutting, measuring and stitching. Very rare for a tailor to do all these days. ETA: Well Woodrot, it seems you've gone up in my estimation. I thought you shopped in Marks & Spencer! -
Relaxed Sunday Shopping rules during Olympics.
Undisputedtruth replied to DulwichFox's topic in The Lounge
Okay Woodrot, Saville Row and Jermyn Street then, where a true gentleman like myself shop. -
Relaxed Sunday Shopping rules during Olympics.
Undisputedtruth replied to DulwichFox's topic in The Lounge
Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Westfield in Stratford may benefit most. > Personally I can't see why this is even news > worthy. This is small minded thinking again. Basically, the Olympics will attract tourists to London and they will shop in areas like the West End, Covent Garden, Camden Market, etc. I don't expect the shops in Dulwich to extend their trading hour on Sunday.
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