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as I said maurice, crack is instant and highly addictive due to the nature of its chemical makeup there has been an urban myth about the CIA introducing crack to kill off the black underclass - in reality, it was the dealers cutting out the middleman of the process involved in cooking coke to heighten the hit. Addiction , as I have mentioned is something you have / you dont have - the physical drug is just a symptom/ a key.

timicom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Being very close to the two organisers of the > Winter Green Fair, I know the amount of effort > that went into it. This took up a lot of Monica > and Marilyn's time, caused them a lot of stress, > and brought them no material benefit. > > Their only aims were to publicise the SNUB > campaign and to spread a little cheer this > Christmas time. > > Sponsored by a few local shops and the Council, > the event was free and accessible to all. > > Having seen Monica and Marilyn spend 6 months > organising this, I?m shocked by some of the > comments here... > > What, you had to leave your buggy/pram outside the > tent? You had to carry your baby for 20 minutes? > There were too many stalls? > > Admittedly, the organisation was not perfect. Yes, > it would have been better if there had been more > space.. > > But then it would have been better if they had had > twice the budget, three times the publicity, etc. > Please bear in mind that this was the first year > of the event and resources were limited. > > Doing an event like this in Decemeber means having > a marquee. If there had been no tent and it had > rained on Saturday as it rained on Friday, there > would have been no event no speak of.. > > Maybe some people would have preferred that? > > Ben Schiller A bit of a mistake in yer copy Ben, heres the corrected piece: "Their only aims were to publicise the SNUB > campaign and to spread a little cheer this > Christmas time. and make some money at the same time As much as I am behind the reusueable bags idea, to sell this retail opportunity as a wholly community focused event is not exactly true is it ?

Its down to dopamine Maurice - some drugs stimulate the production of the bodies opiate :dopamine - coke based products are esepcially able to kick off this part of the CNS and thus the pleasure aspect of it - carck is especially goot at locking into these parts of the brain and often changing their structure to create a physical dependancy to coke/crack.

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "but shopping isnt high on my list of leisure > activities" Didn't realise you were a shoplifter? I earn too much to have to shoplift any longer.

oh. I thought this post was about getting a surly yet saucy Ebloc cleaner.

The beauty of this thread is seeing how people are able to adopt / drop laws, covenants and conventions as / when they feel like it or its suits them. what a good idea. Using that principle: Im going to the pub now and will emerge utterly ripped at 11PM and go for a fast drive around the streets of ED - I hope this doesnt cause any problems for anyone, but I have decided to disregard the rules on drink driving 'cos it suits me at this moment in time. on this facetious note , I see you all later. at midnight at Kings A&E dept, trauma dept. Ill be the one with the 2 coppers at my bedside.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wouldn't disagree with a lot of Snorky's post, > but it would be unfair not to add that a lot of > people do drugs because they just like doing them. > I do. I don't see them as filling some sort of > vacuous hole. I just like them. theres that as well of course I dont mean to trivialise many of the posts on here, but im sure someone once said something along the lines of "if drugs werent fun, then people wouldnt do them" fun can so easily turn grim of course

Drug use isnt gentic no, but genetic preponderance to addiction or shtrill seeking is probabaly so I worked in night clubs during a hiatus from study or travel, during the E & Acid boom of the '80s/ early '90s - many card carrying friday binge drinkers moved from 10 pints & a kebab to a pair of E's and staying up all night - peoples need for a Buzz adapts to what is around in a facile sense, the drug is irrelevant - alcoholics dont class themselves as drug addicts, but they are I thinkn getting bogged down in the emchanics of endlessley classifying drugs according to penalties ( & thus "danger" )is diversionary - I have never been asaulted by someone skunked off their face at an all night garage, but have been in iffy situations with beer monsters - yet Alcohol is delivered in measured doses ( a shot / a half / a nip ) at licenced vendors, yet weed isnt. Comparing coke & skag isnt productive, because they dont compare - in buzz. hit or cost that doesnt mean to say weed is great and risk free - far from it but adult discussion is needed now the ( I think ) prohibition has been pretty much proven to do little except marginalise & criminalise the use & market for drugs. On a personal and wholly detached view on this - this is just mine - one of the reasons for the booming need for "drugs" and the abuse / misure of drugs ( legal & illegal ) is to do with the streessful conditions humans live in now - we self medicate to give us a release form the constrained. trapped, stressed lives we lead - the 9-5, the routine, the grinding numbing mundaniety of our unfulfilled and sometimes proto - mechanistic lives. We are not happy doing what we do - the baubles of success - the big house / new car/ armani after shave / bigger bonus - these are all a placebo - there is something innate within us that rebels against such a constricted and fruitless life.The drugs used to self medicate abnd to become addictive could be skag/ weed/ the job we do / anything whatsoever as Chav suggested earlier, drug use is a symptom of a deeper malaise in many cases - the drug is a key.

I am sad to say I missed it - but shopping isnt high on my list of leisure activities, so maybe it wasnt for me anyway

Try P/kham farmes market, where its easy to spend ?5 on a big lumpy loaf unless you ask befre you buy ( my mistake ! ) Go to lidl and get some of their excellent VolksBrot if its roughage yer after and treat yourself to some Reinhheitsgebot ( sp !) beer & quark with the change.

youve certainly lived a life CWALD - good to hear you are moving on. everyone has regrets of a time they wish a different choice was made... The sex worker aspect is an emotive topic - but we all use our bodies in some sort of slavery to "the man" - on a personal ( and maybe facile )level, It doesnt make any difference to me, be it digging roads or working in a bank - its best use of physical & mental assets to ensure survival. Im surprised about your christianity, but its not that execptional I suppose - Ive seen it with family members in the past - I have nothing but respect for the christian ethos & the work that many people do ( not however the hateful judgemental US version) - the regimented organised aside of religion is another matter that I do have strong opinions on.but thats another topic entirely.

The problem with Skag isnt the skag - if this makes any sense pharmeutical skag delivered in regulated measured doses does ( like any other drug - nicotine. caffine etc ) have an addictive side to it - the psycological vs the physical addiction question is an ongoing debate - it is likely that skag is less addcitve than nictine or caffiene the risk and the dangers with using skag are multifold, but are more to do with infections, disease,theiving , mixing with criminals to get the stuff and suchlike - the OD is a risk, but this is to do with using a non regulated and non standard product with no idea of what is actually in it. Prohibition has not proved to be nuseful with any product- its just allows the crims to make money and corner a market I would never advocate regular use of soemthing like this - any addiction isnt good for you, whatever the product legalisation isnt the same as promotion- just as legalising homosexuality wasnt promoting it. its a big and as weve seen, highly emotive debate for obvious reasons - but criminalising it would seem to be costing us more - in terms of lives and hard cash it would be a brave step for a politico to open the debate - and probabaly career suicicide if it wasnt hadled ith extreme caution.

JesusCappuccino Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry. I have taken ofence at the name you have taken. Its incites racial hatred and is mocking the one true messiah.and erm...idolatry and stuff You should be shot. or stabbed. or something - I havent decided yet, but I am sharpening my machete and organising a shouty demonstration outside the EDD and will be bussing in protestors for the event. (I may have got my topics mixed up here)

none now, but I do drool when I see that fellow chugging down LL on one of his ole skool triumphs - an '80s TSX or a Tiger

Maximay Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You have obviously had no experience with the > seedier sides of life then Keef, sorry, drug > dealers are scum, the lowest form of low, what I > find hard is that a woman who is a mother with > kids of her own can do this to other people's > kids. My opinion I am entitled to it. Your local cafe dispenses Coffee, your local pub Alchohol, your local newsagent sells cigarettes - theyre all drugs Maxi, its just these are legal and heavily taxed I would have thought you have more intelligence than to come out with an atagonistic statement like Drug Dealers are scum- youve had too much to think. very few people grow up with the intention of working hard and running their own network of rancid junkies - selling skag / weed / whatever is a grim career choice, often based & driven on every other factor possible apart from logical choice. Few Deales get up in the morninga and rub their hands with glee about how many lives are going top be destroyed in the necxt 12 hour shift.

Maurice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The best evidence Max of the left skew of this > board is Cafe Nero. You would think the whole of > ED hates the place. But it's bustling. Left ? These Guardian reading hand wringing liberals are not left Maurice.

there is no nobility on killing yourself in wage slavery maxi.

maximay - youve only made 8 posts since you registered , all of which seem to have a theme whats your angle on this ? yer not the Monarchist Daily Mail subscribing nutter who pastes up typed cobblers on the window of the disused newsagents at Goose Green Roundabout are you ?

Weve all got a past - that what makes us what we are. Unfort. getting into politics will ensure your past will be dragged up - still, look on the bright side - yer alive & well, and unlike the other greasy Mufus in Politics, at least people will remember you - that can only be a + point...

Its stone age isnt it . Apart from the specific shooting bit, the sentiments are positively troglodytic. but we have to rewpect it cos its a belief you see - god told them it was OK to do this Anyone fancy Joining the Church of Everlasting Snorky ( ED branch ) ? - where we basically disregard all licencing, smoking & soft drug laws and get ripped to the gills every Friday nights with complete impunity - cos its our belief - God told us to do this as part of the weekly worship.

ratty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I dream of a McDonalds on Lordship Lane but I > guess it will never happen! Sigh! :( invest in a mc D franchise opportunity mr rat!

there is a just a touch of subjective snobbery about the whole Chains/Locals argument tnhjat defies much questioning.

edited cos this is futile.

This brings us nicely to the eternal question What is value ? ( like " what is art", the is no definitive abswer )

If they persists in such anti social behaviour after polite requests, then some would suggest direct action that affect their cashflow may get their attention rather more quickly not me of course I ghhasten to add m'lud