SeanMacGabhann

I didn't make an inference - I asked the question what was the point of starting the thread ? I came up with one possible answer, which I didn't think but was intended to prompt an answer 2 things are likely to happen if you start a thread like this 1) Some people will go "good point - I was allowed to call them pakis when I were a lad and now I can't - why not? It never did them any harm" 2) Worthy's like me will be on high-alert for #1 I'm still no wiser what the point of the thread is really

How are we running out of space?

Fair enough - I could have worded the first bit much better - I just wasn't sure where the impossibly sensitive bit came from - and that's after reading your post several times I certainly wasn't implying that you were racist - and as I said above, I've agreed with pretty much everything else you've written on this thread - so for any offence caused, I apologise

MM - yours seems to be a common reaction he'll still win of course, probably with a landslide, but there is no sense of any hopes being invested in him in the way that many people seemed to in 97 (yes Piers, we know....) The big worry for me was the rolling back big-government stuff, only to change his tune on the one specific of big government that helped HIM out in some way, with his son

And when have I done that quids? "Nazi Nazi" That's just silly Nor was I having much of a go - I just thought, context or no, anyone scanning the thread could see the phrase "impossibly sensitive" and misconstrue it. I don't think I have.. I've been agreeing with pretty much everything you've written on here - I just picked up on that phrase the rest of my post at that time was addressed to others who had posted why the phrase was ok to . I'm slightly exasperated that the question needs asking but I'm not calling anyone a nazi, a racist or anything else

To me, racism only occurs when there is an imbalance of power, and a likely (probably physical) abuse of that power So calling someone from Pakistan isn't inherently "racist" - but thinking they are inferior, and legitamising that thought and those who would attack them, by sharing the language is racist It's why different terms change meaning over the years - to touch on an earlier point, the term "ethnics" has mutated as those who are uncomfortable with Asians realise they will probably get told-off by "the PC brigade" if they use "paki" so they start to say "ethnics" out loud whilst looking like they are swallowing warm, salty water People don't (for the most part) "want" or "look for" offence - they just have their eyes and ears open, read the stories about racist attacks and know what drives them - then they try and pre-empt that culture is that so bad?

true but we aren't there yet are we? And why is the RM "broken"? Even in the US the Mail service is treated with more respect than successive governments here Go back a couple of years, before competition - were we complaining about the lack of alternatives, the twice-daily post, the massive surcharges? I think we were pretty reasonably happy - I don't see what competition has brought to this table If you introduce competition and then, deliberately, make the homegrown alternative look shabby, then of course people are going to compare the two (and possibly blame the workers in to the bargain)

cross posted with your smiley - dang nab it

So, given all that, did that dancer bloke mean it ad a compliment or not?

And "Paddy" has always been a term of endearnment towards Irish people. Oh yes mick, what do you want from this thread? Do you want permission to call people "paki"? Ian, are you sure the corner shop was Pakistani?

Better to fix the Royal Mail I would say - the workers attitudes might be out of date but the service itself has been deliberately run down

Not everyone can afford to do that tho can they?

Not since they took out the line about the kettle furring

it's comparative Brendan - y'know... god is one louder than the devil but you knew that already

spoiling the fun a bit early there aren't you silverfox?

Atil ??

or maybe the world IS full of negative self-absorbed people like (by his own admission) eater81 Either way - I preferred this forum before people like that got wind of it Expect nowt, get nowt

Whilst the latter might be true Atila, the first isn't Several threads celebrating music, TV shows, socialising, curry clubs etc

we have kind of co-opted the What is ED Listening to thread haven't we?

Probably not Dom - have a look around - there is plenty the council could be improving expenditure on

way to claim the moral high ground - perv in what way?

Now THEM I always found over-rated

Did you like Lemmings? How about the lovely ambience of Braid? how about mixing the two, giving it a LucasArts shake and coming up with Lucidity (XBLA as of yesterday) It's quite lovely

cool - are we gravitating towards The Castle or is the venue tbd? the "and friends" bit was meant to signify Brits, Nigerians, Canadians, Bermudans, Ozzies, and everywhere in between bwt. But you knew that