You are starting from the premise, silverfox, that society has, on the whole, become worse Thomas Hobbes wrote in the 16th century that man's life was ""solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short" We have come a long way since then Arguing with the wrong people will see you in big trouble, no debate there. But that has always been the case. Are things worse now than 100 years ago? In almost every way they are better. Are they worse than they were 50 years ago? Possibly, anecdotally in some parts of the country. Is the solution physical punishment? (or as keef has pointed out "torture" ) I think you'll find many of this miscreants are well used to being on the end of pysical punishment, from a young age Blaming liberalism may fit in with your world-view but it doesn't help with your prognosis. Whenever the subject is raised I repeat.:There are parts of the world, and you don't have to go as axtreme as Singapore, with far les violence, higher levels of happiness and enlightenment. They are also broadly liberal. But they don't follow the "dog eat dog" capitalism as slavishly as the US & UK. But the general populace in this country, including yourself would abhor any drift towards such a scandanavian model, given who little interest most English show in the European project