Jeremy

HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The sights and smells > are nurtured to make their intended customers feel > at home. Even the staff's unfriendly attitude is > cultivated to conform to their expectations. This all sounds highly bloody unlikely to me. You're saying that the traders act rude just because that's what the customers want? And they actually intentionally create foul smells to make people feel at home? What the hell??!! This is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard. These are bottom-rung butchers who sell chunks of meat at bargain basement prices. There is no marketing masterplan.

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ClareC, no you shouldn't be shot down for saying that, because a lot of people feel the same way!! But the problem is, as you say, when you are repeatedly stopped and searched. I can imagine that it would soon become not just irritating and inconvenient, but humiliating and demeening. And as Keef says, unfortunately a lot of police officers are not in the job for the right reason, and get a kick out of their power. So stop & search is a pretty delicate area.

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thebeard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If he was just an innocent bystander then it is > awful that he has been stabbed, but I find it very > hard to believe someone would be attacked if they > were just minding their own business. I don't agree. Groups/gangs of kids can hassle and insult other kids who are just minding their own business - it happens all the time. Sometimes teenage boys can't help themselves, and react rather than walking away... and it escalates from there.

Mockney... is that really what it says? My God. A relationship is complex and unique, to be honest I don't find the crude application of statistics at all helpful.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I find Hal so shallow. But daizie may feel the > benefits. > Is this what you were getting at jeremy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000

BBW, I think that the words have added poignancy coming from someone called "HAL"... you may have missed something there...

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy, when you say "the other side" are saying > race is irrelevant, it is Tony who is claiming > > "p.s For the umpteenth time its NOT, REPEAT NOT, > about "colour" but the loss of "Culture" that is > bemoaned..." SMG, I don't want to get the issues mixed up, I am not complaining about the loss of culture. I am saying that it is an over-simplification to say that race is irrelevant in a relationship (in my experience).

"Where do you live?" "East Dulwich" "Oh, where's that? Kent?" "No, South London" "What's the nearest tube station?" "There's no tube actually" "Is it actually in London, or Surrey? Or Kent?" "It's in London. Near Peckham and Camberwell". "Oh... sounds nice..."

Daizie, I find this ageist! What happened to equal opportunities?

I'm confused... are we still talking about the topic of mixed race relationships? If so, then the racial and cultural/social issues are not always easy to separate. This is why such a relationship may present it's own set of challenges. Every situation is unique though... I don't care much for quoting of statistics (on one side) or sweeping statements that race is irrelevant (on the other side).

Sherwick, I believe that genetic diversity is generally positive to a species, as it aids natural selection. However... this only applies when it occurs over many, many generations. Also, I'm not sure how much the principle of "survival of the fittest" applies to the human race in the modern world.

Huguenot - point taken, not sure if the statistic is that useful, given that the majority of relationships don't last forever! But mixed race relationships (or more specifically "inter-culture" relationships) do have more than their fair share of hurdles. Especially if one/both of you come from a background where tradition or religion is very important. So while the "75%" stat may not be the most accurate or helpful, there is a valid point behind it.

lenk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I bought a litre of that stuff from a bloke > outside the station. > > Worst fish stock ever. > > completely ruined my bouillabaise. haha, very good! Lenk, you are mellowing. What happened??!!

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know they can get tedious but people sharing > their own experience of crime in the area is > useful to a lot of other people. The worst thing > is if people report it on the forum rather than to > the police. Agreed!!

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've read several > times b4 ( This time I do not recall where) that > 75% of Mixed-Raced Partnerships fail, I'm afraid. Let's hope that myself, Sherwick, and also you manage to buck this trend, Tony!

Tony.London.Suburbs, AKA "Swiss Toni". http://splinteredsunrise.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/swiss.jpg

Tony's your man, he has women of every ethnicity on tap!

Tony, what's with the "other than work" clause? Lots of people meet friends (and even partners) through work!

I think it's natural for first (and to an extent, second) generation immigrants to socialise mainly amongst themselves. It is the same with British ex-pats... in fact, the Brits are possibly the best example of this. It's a shame, but it's also understandable. It is not done from any desire to avoid the native population, it is simply because it's easier to make friends with someone who shares your language, culture, customs, cuisine, religion, etc. I don't view it as a big problem, and furthermore, I think things are changing. The world is becoming more integrated... we're becoming more aware of each other's cultures and taking more of an interest in them. People in the UK - and I would guess London in particular - are more familiar with other cultures than ever before, and people have started to view the cultural mix as a benefit. Mixed race relationships are becoming much more common. There is more equality in education and in the workplace, helping people broaden their social circles. Second generation immigrants are feeling increasingly "british", while still keeping in touch with their heritage.

Many businesses along that stretch of Melbourne Grove have failed.