Jeremy

dbboy - ED has very few large properties, so you're not comparing like for like. As for Forest Hill... it's a decent area, but is a couple of miles further out, has a major road cutting through it, and doesn't have the same buzz that Peckham has at the moment.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > maybe try and get the ride-on mower going. I'm quite into the ride-on mower idea. But the rest of it... huge country pile with 1000 bedrooms... no thanks.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > New Cross is lively these days Always has been pretty good for pubs, as far as I can remember.

Looks nice, fox. But it's in the middle of nowhere... off the radar for London commuting, I imagine.

I still quite like the EDT. Can't think of any other pubs in ED I'd bother going to these days though. Peckham's better for pubs.

IMO a few bars from a nice chocolate shop makes a nicer gift than truffles from the supermarket... but if you already had your mind set on truffles then fair enough.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Who thinks that? Well it is/was traditionally thought of as a tax on luxury goods... you'll just have to take my word for that. I think I already explained that it isn't necessarily the case in reality.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've never heard anyone before claim here or in > the US that consumption taxes aren't regressive. A lot of people have considered VAT as progressive, because it is traditionally thought of as being a tax on luxury items. However... you can argue that some of the items it covers are actually essentials (clothes being the obvious one). And also it's debatable whether wealthier people spend a higher proportion of their income on "luxuries".

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That wouldn't necessarily make much difference. > When I was struggling along on crutches and then a > stick I was often overlooked. Strange. I was on crutches from Dec-Feb and always got offered seats on the bus. The only problem I had was when the bus driver pulled away rapidly before I'd sat down, and I clattered to the floor!

toto Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My small one bedroom flat is evaluated ?359,000 > with Zoopla, and ?409,182 with Houser... Bit of a > difference there... TBH both valuations are utterly meaningless.

H&G in the pound shop in Peckham! haha. (I don't think H&G need to worry though, last time I checked their stuff was being stocked everywhere from Sainsbury's to Selfridges to Tokyo airport)

Saffron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It stems from wealthy tax dodgers driving inequality. Is that a serious comment, or a topical gag?

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thicke ... nicked the feel and groove from a classic track Well actually as I understand it, Pharrell Williams did... Thicke just turned up later that night, off his head on coke, and ad-libbed some creepy stuff into the mic. I think if LZ can point to several other works in rock/folk/etc with the same chord pattern then maybe they'll be OK, but it's not looking good.

TBH I've never heard of "Spirit". But surely if they were that bothered about it, they would have sued back in the day?

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He's 25 Suspect he'll get by then...

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spot on Jeremy. I also carry a copy of the FT to swot away the little guys.... With a copy of "How to spend it", I trust! Actually I do personally know a couple of bankers in ED (and even Peckham) but they tend to be pretty junior, or in peripheral roles (i.e. not actually "bankers" as such)

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In my experience the 'them and us' concept hasn't been very helpful Yeah that's what I meant... why create that barrier from the start? Even if the problem occurs mainly within a certain demographic, a) is it necessarily constructive to bang on about it, and b) are you at risk of ignoring other groups of kids who could also get drawn into this type of stuff...

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Although it may be true that there 'is no > legitimate reason for a kid to carry a knife' - > and even that is moot, there are legitimate > reasons for adults, even young adults, to carry > them. Not big bladed Bowie knives perhaps, but > many artists uses craft knives (necessarily very > sharp) for their work or hobby. And jobbing > gardeners carry pruning knives. As soon as you > start to institute knife carrying as an 'absolute' > crime - where the fact that you are found with a > knife is sufficient to send you to gaol (albeit > after due process) then perfectly legitimate part > times or jobs are put in jeopardy. I would hope my blunt sweeping statement "no legitimate reason to carry a knife" would implicitly exclude people carrying tools of the trade to/from a place of work or study. If this is the case it should be either very obvious, or easily provable - and you have nothing to worry about.

richard tudor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps actually saying what social strata and > culture the problem stems from might be a good > first step in solving the problem. Well I think we all have a pretty good idea of what the main demographic might be, so why the urgent need to spell it out?

They do (nice) bars in Melange too, which are a bit cheaper.

Never flown on Philippine, but as long as they have the standard in-flight movies, etc, I'm sure it will be just fine. How old is the kid? Do you think they'll be OK with the interchange at Manila?

Yeah but I think it's both. Firstly addressing the root problem - the social problems that lead to children wanting to carry knives and/or commit violence. And secondly the more "physical" step of policing/deterrence.

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PS: I look and sound the same as a normal person So slacks, brogues and pink polo shirt on the weekend... with a sweater casually draped over your shoulders?

Alex K - I can't agree with your comment.. by the same logic it should be OK to carry guns, for target practise and general larking around!! This isn't a village, kids don't whittle sticks, or cheekily cut apples pilfered from the local orchard. There's no legitimate reason to carry a knife. They are being used as weapons, so that's how the law should treat them.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > far more white and middle class than would be reflective of the wider area Yeah I know, but I don't have a problem with that. You could argue that a Nigerian restaurant isn't reflective of the wider area either. The question of whether both can coexist is more important that who goes where.