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Boris official statement to his family :)

Jo Johnson "It's been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as a minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I've been torn between family loyalty and national interest. It's an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & minister" Bye Bro

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Honestly I sometimes think it?s because this > country has pushed the idea of being subjects > rather than citizens for so long, that they have > such a weird deferential forelock-tugging attitude > to posh voices > > ?Thus us cluuurlay an affront to democracy? > > ?Ooh ?ee?s right yknow!!? How many times I've been told I should lose my Welsh accent - yet it's still there. Posh speakers do get promoted faster - but so do tall handsome men (IMHO)

Vaping - whats going on in the States would scare me if I did (a bad vaping liquid I guess ?).

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > These deep fakes are getting scarily realistic. > Warning: once you've seen it you can't unsee > it...https://twitter.com/Alex_Negueruela/status/11 > 69265030287810561 He looks so happy with his new (CGI) friend - The pictures of IDS picking his nose and eating it during Ken Clarke's speech were real and need a warning for sure however.

Now in the commons the Chancellor getting a bollocking. "John Bercow, the Speaker, says what Javid is saying is ?unseemly?. He says he says this ?with a heavy heart?. He says Javid is veering into matters unrelated to the spending round, which is supposed to be the subject of his statement. He says he wants Javid to adjust his remarks, so that he focuses on the spending round. " A few seconds later "Javid says he wants faster internet services"

LOL - Old Moggers really has no regard for anyone who didn't go to eton :)

alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ideally they would choose not to live in > developments built on bulldozed social housing. The Heaton Arms was under my block 10 years ago and I feel guilty about that sometimes. It is one of the successful developments though IMHO.

The erstwhile Lords turning up with duvets and changes of clothes today. They predict an all nighter,

Fair enough - all good ideas above.

As I said previously - 5 years in EFTA/EEA with an agreement to review and fast track back into the EU or to leave with a free trade agreement after that. EU have already offered this to Theresa May but it was disregarded by her. Edit: That's my compromise position - My original position is strong remain.

Stone Cold Stunner as parliament opens and Dr Phillip Lee walks in and sits with the Liberal Democrats Majority 0

Strange poll of 10,000 today for the Conservative Group for Europe (but not by them) showing almost a totally hung parliament - not sure of it's validity - reported on TV and in the Financial Times 321 (Labour+LibDem+SNP+Others) 311 Tories (no BxParty - seems they don't get a seat) DUP lose one to alliance 322 to 321 - Nobody really winning. https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1168546988205518850 Oh - It's an MRP survey so looks at constituency level I think.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dbboy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > As someone who is on life time meds and which > > without could put me back in hospital, a couple > of > > months ago, the pharmacy had trouble getting > the > > meds as production had temporarily ceased, no > > explanation given. Fortunately as I had just > had > > enough to cover that period. Had I not it could > > have been a different story. Now I don't know > if > > it was coincidence or Brexit related, but med > > shortages are already with us. > > > > I believe that some fresh foods that are either > > produced in or comes from Europe will either go > > into short supply or rocket in price, unless > the > > UK can grow or make the product here. While it > may > > not initially be tariffs that cause prices to > > increase the supply and demand market will be > > affected which will result in price increases. > > Even things like fresh flowers that have > already > > increased in price will see further increases. > > Leaving the EU will have consequences on > probably > > 90% of households. It will be a case of suck it > > and see, one good reason to remain. > > Drug manufacture is quality controlled at every > stage. The methodology is exacting and thorough. > It could be a problem at any stage of production. > There are several companies in the UK that carry > out the QC and QA and they are answerable to USA > standards as well as EU standards But what I hear is some varieties of similar drugs are good for some people and others for other people. After Brexit we may lose the variety (many saying we already have).

Not if you've never cycled before If you know how to cycle but not in London it's the deep end (I wouldn't do that route tomorrow)

nxjen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Electioneering has begun > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49554230 > /boris-johnson-s-new-rescue-puppy-moves-in-to-down > ing-street He looks so sad.

paulu197 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Note that the PM is actually elected. We vote for > a party not a leader, its the party's perogative > to decide who should lead. Simple Works in a parliamentary type democracy but we're moving towards one where the PM is much more Presidential and then there's Dom Cummings ;)

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's why I wrote 'traitor' not traitor... fair enough I get the ironic quotes - just saying all words are often overblown.

Actually the closest we have at the moment is the Kim Darroch leak. ?We have prima facie evidence of a very serious crime.? Scotland Yard

Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > dbboy Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > As I said previously May & Co faffed for > three > > > years, Bojo is now enacting the outcome of > the > > > referendum. If the govt failed to do this it > > would > > > not be doing the job it was elected to do > > > > > > May agreed a deal to leave, thus enacting the > > outcome of the referendum, it was voted for 3 > > times by 'traitors' like Grieve and Hammond, > even > > Johnson and Rees Mogg flipped on the third > > attempt. It failed primarily because of > hardcore > > Brexiters voting against it, knowing it could > lead > > to no deal. > > Er,.... and the Labour Party, PC, SNP and the LDs LOL and the above - is Hammond and Grieve really - really by true definition a traitor.

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree it's not a coup. But it is dangerous > constitutional impropriety. I think protestors > against it are justified in using snappier > language to get their message across. In the same way judges were not "Enemies of the People" and Remainers are not "Traitors" and the rest from the usual suspects in the press. 'They're Jeremy Corbyn's useful idiots': Brexiteers demand Tory traitors face no confidence votes' Daily Mail 'Boris Johnson takes on the Tory Remainer traitors' Daily Mail 'Labour's Yvette Cooper branded 'TRAITOR' by constituents' Daily Express Daily Express 'Boris Johnson hits out at Remainer coup as he breaks silence on suspension of Parliament' 'Caroline Lucas plots farcical Brexit coup that includes female only 'emergency Cabinet'' Daily Express

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As someone who is on life time meds and which > without could put me back in hospital, a couple of > months ago, the pharmacy had trouble getting the > meds as production had temporarily ceased, no > explanation given. Fortunately as I had just had > enough to cover that period. Had I not it could > have been a different story. Now I don't know if > it was coincidence or Brexit related, but med > shortages are already with us. > > I believe that some fresh foods that are either > produced in or comes from Europe will either go > into short supply or rocket in price, unless the > UK can grow or make the product here. While it may > not initially be tariffs that cause prices to > increase the supply and demand market will be > affected which will result in price increases. > Even things like fresh flowers that have already > increased in price will see further increases. > Leaving the EU will have consequences on probably > 90% of households. It will be a case of suck it > and see, one good reason to remain. We're going to have to prioritise if there are problems. Water, Medicines and Power come first (OK we can put up with some power cuts but not many as we rely on power so much these days - unlike the 70s where power cuts happened regularly). Food variety and other stuff (toiletries) we can make do for a while (it won't kill us).

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I have already suggested, the whole point of > proroguing Parliament was to wrong foot remainer > MP?s into a General Election. And I would not be > surprised if one is called within days. > > Louisa. Corbyn has said today he will support a GE - but I'm still not sure. Why give Johnson 5 years whilst the country goes to the dogs (you may disagree it will - but that's OK as I'm using the assumption it will)

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How do you know racists voted to leave ?- (mind > you most people don't actually know the definition > of racist)...most people who voted leave are > people who have somehow been dispossessed by free > movement, for example they are tradesmen who have > lost work (I know of at least 6 that fall into > that category) and STILL have mortgages and > children to raise so cannot UNDERCUT their > fees...again the Remainiacs resort to personal > insults The group that is now running government believe British workers are just lazy and said so in 2012. https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/britannia-unchained-boris-johnson-ministers-book (The authors include Elizabeth Truss and Dominic Raab, The other contributors to Britannia Unchained are Priti Patel, Chris Skidmore and Kwasi Kwarteng)

Here's Pete North's Blog - and he's a leaver who is now saying no deal is inevitable but always one Remainers would call "a sensible leaver" http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/