JohnL

An alternative is allowing only 50% of cars out on every other day - they did this in Athens years ago I think they call it Road Rationing. It moves away from "nudge unit" politics into banning people from taking out cars on certain days however.

"Fox News will broadcast an interview on Saturday night in which Donald Trump accuses Joe Biden of taking performance-enhancing drugs." Biden did look quite lithe running towards the camera - Trump can't cope that he maybe on the Peloton.

Suella Braverman taking a bit of a hammering at the Bar Meeting today, but wouldn't be surprised if Boris/Cummings sack Brandon Lewis for announcing it. "Five QCs confronted the attorney general during Saturday?s meeting, telling her that a crime which broke the law in a ?specific and limited way? ? the phrase used by the Northern Ireland secretary, Brandon Lewis, when he announced the move ? was still a crime." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/12/top-lawyers-slam-suella-braverman-for-wrecking-uks-reputation

also from the Telegraph "Boris Johnson has written a column for the Telegraph for the best part of three decades. No modern politician?s opinions are better known: readers have been treated to his views on skiing helmets, the African elephant, and the disappearance of the otter, among other more weighty subjects. But his columns have also become a source of controversy, with his opponents selectively quoting from them in an effort to discredit him...." Everything he writes is a load of BS - that's what the above means. A brief history of Boris BS https://thepinprickcom.wordpress.com/2017/09/18/a-brief-history-of-bullshit-boris-johnsons-10-greatest-fibs/

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Calm Sephiroth, calm. > > Last time I looked the negotiations were still > going on. The EU will come up with its usual > fudge. Boris will go No Deal just to say "I did it, I did it" whilst dancing around the fire he's caused.

But his record shows he's into genetics - mainly in trees but he's probably extrapolating his experience to people (which is then eugenics (breeding people) or the old herd immunity aproach). https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/portal/en/persons/richard-ennos(184abdca-9907-4b83-a527-d7248d33d6b0)/projects.html

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Any points in particular j.a. do you believe > professor Esson to be a dangerous lunatic to. > Its good to know you can sleep well knowing the > people creating our new reality are keeping you > safe, so simple to follow. Hes' Professor Richard Ennos I think https://www.ed.ac.uk/profile/richard-ennos Here's something he wrote to the scottish sun - seems he wants old people isolated and everyone else to be infected https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5630604/coronavirus-scotland-scottish-government-care-home-professor/ Genetics - linking back to Cummings idea of eugenics maybe ? Not sure.

This is Democracy, but as long as Cummings says do it, it's done. Thatcher would not have taken decisions like this. "The Prime Minister's new rule of six to help curb the sharp rise in coronavirus cases in the UK was opposed by every minister apart from Matt Hancock, according to reports." https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rule-of-six-opposed-ministers-cabinet-a4545036.html

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rockets Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It's starting....the pressure is mounting....TV > > news coverage tonight as well. Votes will be at > > stake now.... > > > Oh no, not the TV news! You already posted this in > the other thread by the way. EU, Cladding, Climate etc. It's easy to get in the press and even arrange big marches. But all of them get nowhere - politics now is continue going as you are and b*gg*r the consequences. The pragmatic side to this country is gone (for the moment).

It's just the Rule of Three (which Boris loves) doubled. He kept on repeating it as if it was a new word he found.

Nancy Pelosi was astounded. There won't be a US-UK trade deal whilst the democrats hold the house if this continues.

Boris said the withdrawal agreement he wrote, put to parliament and campaigned on in a general election didn't make sense. or maybe he never got around to reading it.

There are going to be COVID Marshalls apparently (they won't have any power but no doubt they'll inform on you and then the Police will come and fine you) "local authorities are to be given additional support from Covid-19 Secure Marshals, who will help to enforce the government?s coronavirus restrictions."

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sephiroth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Someone tell keano it's not the 19th century > > anymore, the world has moved on, England is a > > minor world player compared to several hundred > > years ago and that the EU is not some invading > > force that extracted taxes from the natives > > As an Irishman you will know how the Troika > compelled Ireland to introduce all sorts of > charges and taxes on the natives as a condition > for the bailout. Property taxes and water rates > spring to mind although mass demonstrations by the > natives forced toe government to back down on > water rates. If our credit rating is trashed as we are not a stable rule abiding country any longer. How do we pay the huge debt repayments when the interest rate goes up ? It won't be the Troika forcing us to increase taxes as we'll be out but it will be the IMF/World Bank.

Rule of Six, but Prime Minister, It's the Rule of Six, but Mr Johnson, Rule of Six.. I liked Charmed once but then it was the Rule of Three.

These are the bodies the Government intends to ignore in their law breaking bill In this section? ?relevant international or domestic law? includes? (a) any provision of the Northern Ireland Protocol; (b) any other provision of the EU withdrawal agreement; © any other EU law or international law; (d) any provision of the European Communities Act 1972; (e) any provision of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018; (f) any retained EU law or relevant separation agreement law; (g) any other legislation, convention or rule of international or domestic law whatsoever, including any order, judgment or decision of the European Court or of any other court or tribunal; https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0177/20177.pdf #ukinternalmarketbill

redpost Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Scenario one: > > drive to sainsburys, do the shop > back in car, stop off at the layby outside marks > and sparks to pick up some percy pigs (even though > parking not allowed here) > drive round the corner and park in melborne grove > for bi-weekly colonic irrigation appt > get back in car and swear at a cyclist on way > home > > Scenario two: > > drive to sainsburys do the shop > walk to marks > walk to business on melborne grove > perhaps stop for a coffee if you have time > walk back to car (you've got 3h free parking) > > > It's not difficult is it?? 2 Hours unfortunately - I suspect I may have been slightly over it last weekend :(. I've kept my ?140 sainsburys bill just in case as they usually let you off if you have one.

Pubs are going to be forced to take names and addresses apparently. and this time the government means it or there'll be a curfew.

Congrats on the lottery win

I'm not chirpy - I've just learnt to live with it and try and see the best. I much prefer to be involved with opening new offices (and datacenters) to shutting them - but companies are always looking to save money. Hopefully the UK can generate new roles that differentiate themselves from those that are vulnerable.

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "You should get a small increase for WFH for > bills. Also chairs and desks etc. should be > claimable from expenses" > > You're gonna get a small short term increase for a > desk and a big long term drop in salary. I used to talk like that 20 years ago - you can't stand in the way of change as it's going to happen anyway. And due to Britain being an open stable country with good connections jobs increased here when we expected an exodus.

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "You should get a small increase for WFH for > bills. Also chairs and desks etc. should be > claimable from expenses" > > You're gonna get a small short term increase for a > desk and a big long term drop in salary. Lots of vacancies for IT staff still - My job will go when we move fully to cloud anyway as I'm a legacy network guy so I'll move to help another firm migrate. It took years and years to get IBM As/400s out.

rachp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I guess it's because employers realise it's not as > simple as where you work but who you are, cultural > challenges etc. Many companies will go through > this painful loop before realising that it's more > complex than it first appears. After years of feeling threatened by offshoring (I used to have a big issue about it years ago) I got to accept it. We can only differentiate on what we can differentiate on :). Tech changes and there's not much we can do to stop it - we used to have servers in the back room - then we moved them to centralised datacenters in the UK - now they are moving to the cloud.

rachp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My old company would monitor how many times you > came into the office and which floors you visited. > If you didn't come in often enough or you didn't > leave your own floor, it flagged up a review on > whether your role could be off shored. But working in IT we are moving everything to the cloud so it doesn't matter whether you are in the office or at home - you get the same functionality So everyone can be offshored - but I've had this for 30 years LOL

Anyway the offshoring/globalisation battle was fought in the 1990s - no point in re-fighting it - the drivers are not WFH but cloud and TECH changes. If you work in an office and your job can be offshored the office will close.