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pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > jimlad48 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > We literally have nothing to fear except fear > itself, sadly fear is winning. > > What kinda BS is that?!? It's "I'm alright Jim"

Shrieker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its probably people in Peckham who cannot > understand why Notting Hill Carnival is cancelled > and want to recreate it in their neghbourhood, and > endanger their elderly relatives who they live > with. That's trendy yuppies so maybe - but they mainly live in flats in small family groups (2 or 3).

Metallic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sadly, it's the "I'm alright Jack" mentality that > rules the roost. When these people are old and > infirm, or disabled, and can't get anywhere, can't > cycle or get a cab, they may think again. I'm only 15 years away but I hope we'll have a system of electric cars that pick you up and drop you with no driver. Obviously you don't get to choose the route. https://www.wired.com/story/intersection-self-driving-cars-electric/ Am I hoping for a hoverboard here.

Piers Corbyn has been arrested and fined 10K after the London march denying Covid-19 exists "He was punished, according to the Health Protection Regulations, for holding a gathering of more than 30 people in an outdoor place, Scotland Yard said." https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/trafalgar-square-antilockdown-man-73-handed-10000-fine-a4536441.html

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > whiteplumeria69's post on page 1 seems to me an > informed and adequate explanation of what has > probably happened. > /forum/read.php? > 5,2141666,2141890#msg-2141890 I could well imagine that's how the scheme works with no confirmation or letter (or email) but just because you are registered are you obliged to take part

LOL A necessity that is much overlooked I agree :)

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > You know things are bad when even The Guardian > starts complaining about things that are supposed > to be improving the environment....;-) You could say this Guardian writer will now consider how to kill two birds with one stone when taking thinks to the dump and perform other tasks that include driving at the same time. This is the plan - the moan is exactly what the response to the climate emergency is looking for and it's "nudge" theory I think. If they've gone to far they'll retract it a bit but it's exactly the effect they are looking for.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh dear- it's going UP > https://uk.yahoo.com/news/health-secretary-warns-e > xtensive-lockdowns-230154302.html With Hancock I had horrible visions then.

It's not just one delivery company, many of the parcel deliverers offer tracking and you can see them on the map delivering around my neighborhood followed by a "we missed you" even though you're sitting there waiting for them to ring. They seem to have issues with some blocks and houses. Last time I wrote to Customer Services and copied in the CEO of one I was so peeved - they wrote back but they never come up with a proper reason (possibly red route, possibly box was at the back of the truck, possibly they couldn't understand the door entry system - all excuses I've heard). The problem is if they miss you one day for their own reasons you're at the back of the queue next day if the truck is full as their only way of marking missed deliveries is "occupant wasn't in".

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was really quite shocked how dead parts of > London are now: take a walk through Covent Garden > and Holborn to see the impact this is having on > small and big businesses alike. > > We walked down Park Lane a few weeks ago and not > one of the hotels there were open and the usual > super-car valet parking outside the Dorchester was > empty bar one less that super-car. > > > We also walked around St Paul's and it was > sobering to see the impact on the businesses who > provide services to office workers. > > Scary times for our beloved city. I went to pick up a few things from the office and then walked around Holborn - it was dead (except for Knights Templar spoons which seemed to have a few people in it). It was the boarded up shops that made it feel really down. We won't be going back until 2021 though - if ever as we're closing offices across Europe as a result of other changes. Our US colleagues have just been told 2021 too. Government has to be careful what it says as it's not a case of people refusing to go back they are being told to stay at home for now.

There are younger riders that aren't commuting mind just cycling for the hell of it (I'd compare them to the skateboarders at the Grove) - such as these - somehow doubt TFL counts them though. https://cyclingindustry.news/bikestormz-returns-in-june-calling-for-knives-down-bikes-up/

Sky News have somebody on to give advise to those upset by the idea they might lose their job due to working from home but redundancies happen whether you're in an office or at home IMHO. Got to say every time a business moves closer to being 100% cloud the less role for us legacy network guys - but there's still a market for us it seems :) You can't get upset about it and shake your fist at the cloud.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Totally agree, vilifying Labour Southwark Council > to detract from Tory central Government who > introduced the policy. > > Sorry, the policy may be a Tory one (it's also a > Labour one, as it happens, and rather more so) but > the choice of roads is the Labour Council's - and > they are choosing schemes which they favoured but, > in many cases, the local residents didn't - so > they are using Tory legislation to push through > their own chosen road closure policies escaping > public scrutiny or complaint by diktat. If this doesn't work however I think we might see the return of the fuel escalator (with a push to electric). and look who's back to block some roads (extinction rebellion are) https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/28/extinction-rebellion-to-block-streets-in-london-manchester-and-cardiff

Government also saying they want us back in work (and the Telegraph making threats) - this doesn't look very joined up in the short term. Maybe they want chaos - I was always told if you want to introduce change you cause a little chaos with the current system first :)

slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mr.chicken Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Says "actually" and makes a claim with zero > evidence. Are you a One Dulwich supporter by any > > change? > > I was quoting the TFL "Travel in London" report 12 > from 2019. The precise quote is "Most people who > cycle in London.. tend to be mostly male, white, > in employment, and with relatively higher > household income". Happy with that? > Those are the ones who fill in the surveys. It's not what I see on the street. As a 14-16 year old I cycled everywhere but I didn't want people knowing what I was doing.

What is beginning to annoy me is that this looks like a local Tory campaign and the Tories are introducing this policy nationally. Like Physician, heal thyself.

slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mr.chicken Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Drivers skew rich, white, male and middle aged, > > > Actually that is true of cyclists, particulalry > commuterones. They tend to be mostly male, white, > employed earning high income and middle aged. lots of local cyclists completely different (in my area anyway). And then you have the scooter riders.

Turk-Mex

Multiple plans (carrot and stick) may work

So who is staying home voluntarily and who is staying home as advised by their Employer. Who's office has shut until Christmas or even permanently. The Transport Secretary seems to think we all have a choice in this matter.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > thebestnameshavegone Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > andrewc Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Are there any studies that support the idea > > that > > > more roads reduce traffic? > > > > > > None. More roads equal more traffic. > > > > When one is accustomed to privilege, equity > feels > > like oppression. > > You won't find anyone on here suggesting we need > more roads. Just a balanced, fair and equitable > use of existing road infrastructure that takes all > road users into account - not draconian road > closures that please a small minority of road > users and residents yet heaps misery on everyone > else. > > And what is happening is not equity, far from it > as it is obvious this is displacing traffic from > one area to another and only the most blinkered > advocate for the closures would deny that. > Remember, 89% of the cars will now be going a > different route - is that success and achieving > the stated goals, no not even close? The government wants more bikes and pedestrians and less cars - it's a long term gain for short term pain.

northernmonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow- seems unnecessarily rude - do you think you > might phrase things differently if this forum made > people use real names? Trumpist Politics - I can here him raving on my TV now.

I can't find any government (or other) page that says the rules - can they just opt in and out when they feel like it or not. Once they signed up were they bound by it until the end of August. I noticed on Sky "It is worth remembering that some large chains, such as Starbucks, are franchises, so not all branches may be taking part." so it's up to the local manager then ?

Isn't that the Castle ?

It was open all night last night and for a while this morning. Post is back in now.