"Am I?" I'm obviously being obstinate Rosie but from where I'm sitting you've chosen to jump on me again because (I may be mistaken) you see me as an obvious target where as if you read through the thread I merely suggested the title of Schindlers List over Jah Lush's choice of Cheech and Chong's Up In Smoke because the likely event is that the animals would be put to death like the victims of the film I chose to mirror what I imagined would be passing through the mind of the condemned animal. If it were able to hold such graphic anxieties. I didn't, in any part of this thread make any reference to the holocaust, you're the first to bring this up (referencing genocide). "Because on the scale of human atrocities I don't think it quite ranks up there with genocide?" As I said before, I never mentioned atrocities anywhere in this thread so I can't really comment on the above statement. "You've got me banged to rights and no mistake." I don't like to gloat, but I hope I've made my point clear enough in the above explainations to be a competent case for the defense. "What the @#$%& are you talking about?" Read this post from the beginning. I'm not chopping up what you've written for any comedic value or indeed, skewing your point. I just find it easier to explain myself this way.