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Good luck to them - obvs! It certainly looks like a bold venture...

Tarot - are you worried it's going to make you go gay? I'd stop watching them. I understand a strong satellite pointed in the right direction can pick up Iranian TV if that's more your thing.

From my experience, Howdens only deal with trade, so you won't get a price from them. If builders want to know what kitchen, they will know what's involved with Howdens as they are all the same carcassing I think. Some other kitchen types do require more involved fitting. Prices: depends on how many units obvs and there is a range of styles so you won't know a final figure until you're a bit further down the line. I would say the ?8k figure is a lot closer to where you'll end up than the ?18k. They do have a showroom in ED tho that is open to the public and I believe open on Saturday mornings.

Jeremy - what militant cyclist nonsense?

Sema has good chips Would be surprised if anyone would be doing chips cooked in beef dripping - vegetarian/pescatarian customers wouldn't like it.

Granted, the forum would be quite dull if people didn't disagree with each other. But I don't really understand starting a thread with an implied, then later stated, point of view, finding out that virtually no-one agrees with you, and then moaning that the EDF isn't representative of broader views in the area. Did I miss something?

As a straight comparison, I think that the Standard is less right-wing now under it's current ownership than the previous. Not that that is saying much!

For what it's worth, we were living in Ulverscroft Road up until just over a year ago. We would probably have moved sooner or later but as my wife and I both cycle to work and we have young kids (equals buggies, scooters, etc) the lack of space for bikes was absolutely the key factor that motivated us to start looking for somewhere new to live. Houses in Ulverscroft don't have enough space out front for a bike locker and we could barely get in and out of the house. So I would have gladly welcomed one of these when we lived there. And I would have been ever so careful not make too much noise opening and closing it, just like I am with the one I have now on my own property which is more or less directly under my neighbour's window.

MadMum - I thought you were hoping for Charter 2 as the thought of leaving the area makes you shudder?

Vincent van Gogh used to live there... Whether you like it or not - it's pretty hard to stop an area changing economically, in either direction. The proposed redevelopment of the arches area looks quite shoddy though - isn't it more of a planning issue than a gentrification issue?

Did anyone else see this last night? The bride was hoping for the local church in rural Lincolnshire, instead she got the roof of the Bussey Building in Peckham. It seemed like everyone had a good time...

Schools might be paid per pupil, but where do you think that extra money would come from? Where on earth do you get your ideas from about parents' motivations for sending their kids to private schools? To me it just seems like inverted snobbery. Which is just snobbery. Do you also think these people all have gold taps on their baths? In my mind, private education doesn't win on every count but it has some clear benefits. Invariably the facilities are better and the class sizes are smaller meaning they get more input from the teaching staff. And yes, there is going to be a difference in intake and some parents will understandably see value in their child being educated in a cohort where the ability levels are higher and the pupils and parents are highly motivated. I?m not entirely unsympathetic to the view that private schools are not a wholly good thing for society. I get that. But I can?t get past the fact that we live in a free country and I really don?t think it would be right to say to people who have already paid their taxes and made their contribution to the state system, that they can?t use their own money in the way that they see best and pay for their own children?s education again. The level of harm done by the private system just doesn?t merit that sort of limitation on other people?s rights to do what they choose with their own money. The practicalities wouldn?t work either; the private system would just move offshore, to Ireland for example. And what about home-schooling, would you outlaw that as well?

Really it should be Le Moribond by Jacques Brel as Terry Jacks was just a blow-in

Re: the sibling rule, this is just a thought that comes to mind, but what about invalidating it if a family move address? Stay put and you get your sibling place even if the catchment changes, but if you move all bets are off.

Otta - I think that's a bit harsh! It's by no means a new thing that people move into certain locales to be in catchment areas for favoured schools. And it's certainly nothing new that parents will try and do the best they can for their offspring. I think all admissions criteria have their flaws and for distanced-based, the mobility of the better off is the obvious one. But I wouldn't demonise parents who are playing by the rules, just because you don't like the rules. ie. don't hate the player...

Well done to all the staff at Bessemer!! @Landsberger - it's only recently expanded to 3 form intake. Further up the school, it is undersubscribed, so not sure there's much of a case for a 4 form entry??

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I just walked past that hoarding. It's naff, yep! Can't argue with that. But really worth getting your self all worked up about? :)

Massively off the thread there Blah Blah - who else is talking about people abusing children? Why do you take that statement in such absolute terms, or as saying the parent in this instance is beyond reproach? I think you have read a bit too much into that one. "as after all you are his dad and know what is best for him. No one else has the right to tell you otherwise" And the world is full of parents that also think they know what is best for their kids when they abuse them. To suggest that being a parent automatically makes a person beyond reproach is nonsense. Not relevant to the parent in question here I know, but just thought the point should be made. You can't talk in such absolute terms.

From today's Guardian: There is no scientific case for homeopathy: the debate is over Pharmacists who sell homeopathic remedies as anything other than placebos are putting their customers? health at risk The promotion of homeopathy is not ethical. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/12/no-scientific-case-homeopathy-remedies-pharmacists-placebos

They are both brilliant, so either. But NHM probably nudges it. Get there early if you can as they both get v busy

I've been to the NYC one. I don't remember it being expensive for a destination restaurant... I do remember it being very nice tho

Otta - Speaking only for myself, I do have a concern over the admissions criteria, but it's not based on my kids' ability to get on a bus.

Congratulations to all those involved in the Charter bid - This is great news. Well done and thank you also to those who led and contributed to the Habs bid. This was my preferred choice, but only by a a narrow margin. With regards to the admissions criteria, I'm not sure I have understood the argument for a nodal criteria properly. In terms of there being a black hole to the east of Lordship Lane, are these areas not now served by the two Harris schools? I understand that although these schools are both rated outstanding, they are not everyone's first choice for varying reasons. So if it's about choice, how does the choice of one family impact on the choice/options of another family who would like that school (the new Charter), live close to it, but miss out in favour of someone who lives further from the school but closer to a notional nodal point? Am I missing something? Edited to correct typo

So just for the avoidance of doubt, what is it about this Ofsted rated Outstanding school that caused you such feelings of despair?