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Come come pk- we have that Japanese deal rolled over Well...I say we have that deal. Japanese parliament has to vote on it so let?s see. Our mps won?t get to. So much democracy. So much control And so much fuss over a deal that is worth so little to uk economy. Easy enough for Japanese to say ?sure. Whatevs?

You?re the one with outstanding homework keano. Leave ja out of it. Why are English people applying for Irish passports in records numbers - many of them leave voters?

I?m genuinely pleased to be a lightning rod for keanos id- someone he can distract himself with. Save him from the horrors of his own thoughts when he isn?t tormenting remainers. He can?t look at or listen to those thoughts any more. They hurt him so Must. Distract. Must. Believe.

It really isn?t. All countries provide basics and usually accept some immigration. There isn?t any special gratitude required for it. You havent answered any of my points But you have posted a potted history of my life without any reference to timeline so you have no idea I came to this country. I work. I pay tax. If I did the same in Yugoslavia but saw what was about to happen would I be wrong for pointing it out? Why do you want gratitude? Face the problems you are creating Given the history of what this country has done to Ireland I would pipe down if I were you about telling people to be grateful.

We have a lot of English people applying for Irish passports in last couple of years Irish people applying for British passports? Not so much Now. Why would that be?

I mean everything keano says in last post could equally apply to the many thousands of English people living in Ireland But you don?t hear many Irish people wanging on about it like it?s some kind of super power. Or wanting to leave the eu in order to... what? Still. No one knows.

That has all happened IN the EU It?s East Sussex I had been renting for years in London before moving here The U.K. furlough scheme is about to end (unlike several eu countries which have extended their schemes until 2021) Other countries have education and health schemes. What the hell damn point do you think you are making????

? One thing I?m certain of, whatever outcome we arrive at a good number of people will be unhappy? Something we agree on. But your first point about the eu is delusional. Countries do face uncertain futures. Pooled strength will be worth more than go alone small countries. Being part of the eu doesn?t guarantee a certain future and never did. As I hear from leavers all the time - uk was worlds something?th best economy (I mean that is slipping since Brexit. Obvs) but it manages to make top 5 whilst ?unable to Make its own laws?. Amazing stuff But I see you are now going with the tired ?eu will collapses or disintegrate? trope Or ?whistling in the dark?. Because the dark is what you know even if it isn?t your friend

The thing is... Keano (and people like him) They won. They enjoy that fact. It doesn?t make them happy. Nothing does for long. (Have you SEEN how angry they have been for last 4 years) But it?s something to cling to Pleasure is only ever fleeting. So tweaking remainer noses will do. It?s a plentiful supply after all. Loads of ?em. And they lost. Ha ha But he knows. They know. They are terrified of what they have done Can?t admit it. And certainly never here. Probably never even to themselves. Far easier to dismiss posts like this. And he will But in bed. At night. They know And he and they are damned because of it

So, as per, brexit remains undefinable. Got it. It occasionally hoves into view, at which point brexiteers come over all funny and vague and use weird language But actually define what might be a good outcome? God forbid

Nah. Johnson will claim whatever paltry deal he gets will be the eu caving in ?as per? Britain will be diminished Scotland will leave Johnson will be sacked Keano will still be keano Speaking of this fudge. Care to try and define it keano? Give me 3 things (or more) that Botha sides will cave in on and why this will be a bet win for Britain. Go on. You get to play Fantasy Brexit

Oh sweetie. Some things simply demand excessive attention Perhaps a smidge more attention and the liar you are subservient to wouldn?t need to renege on all of his main election promise or break international law

We all see him And the world sees U.K. Both with their arses hanging out

No cliche left unturned now keano eh? So easy to say ?no deal better than a bad deal? But what can we expect of people who didn?t know what they voted for (That IS what Johnson is claiming this week isn?t it?)

It doesn?t answer the question. At all. It doesn?t address anything about how many people told him all this at the time. About how mps wanted time to debate it only to be told shut up enough talking nothing to discuss It?s not old ground Because it?s the same ground over and over again He lies and he lies. Voters like you might like it but same people in this country and international partners have had enough

How many years since the referendum keano? How many extensions has the U.K. had to ask for? And why have they had to ask for them? Was it because the eu caves in as it always does? Or was it just obvious the U.K. was in no way ready?

None so blind as those that won?t see England has talked itself into a corner and has no way out. So it talks about breaking international treaties or imagines the eu will just abandon the rules of the single market to accomodate this tantrum Sorry keano. But the just like the German car makers, no one is coming to the rescue of the U.K. this time. U.K. govt has alienated too many people Johnson will either renege and accept a slim pickings deal (in which case he?s gone) Or he goes ahead with no deal (In which case the country implodes and he?s gone) The govt has never ever been able to deliver on the promises made before the referendum. Because it was only talking to itself.

You could start with ?Do you think that slim majority in 2016 voted for THIS?? Because I can tell you now they f@@king didn?t Yes I?m unhappy and so should everyone who cares about this country, international law, peace in Ireland Obviously that will exclude you keano Only a psychopath would be ?happy? with how things are now

That's democracy for you Nowt democratic about what has happened during and since that referendum. No ability to change our minds? Not democratic. Such a major change on a tiny majority? Not democratic No other democracy would run something like this

But what is this thing about ?spreading fear? You make it sound like there is nothing or little to fear. We should be afraid. If I run at you with an axe, your instinct will be fearful of the threat. Being afraid isn?t a bad thing when we need to take a threat seriously. Yes there will be side effects. Isolation, economics, mental health etc. All need to be considered. But none of them matter much if we lose too many people to a virus we don?t know how to deal with yet

But it isn?t just our government is it? I think this government have handled things as badly as is possible - but there isn?t some global conspiracy about this virus and the damage it does. Countries everywhere have locked down to some degree. Cases are rising again exponentially and because this government have wasted the summer we will suffer again. But denial or pretending we can just get herd Immunity is for the birds

Professor of what? Who is he and what?s his expertise and how does it stack up with experts in countries across the globe? (You really think there is a conspiracy across USA, uk, Chinese, eu, African, Asian and the rest countries?) And who is the woman? A quick google shows her to be just a conspiracy nut So what exactly is the point of the video?

You should be embarrassed for giving that video the time of day te44

whlst I agree with the rest of rouge's post (And posts generally), I have to pick up on this point "Unlike Seph I think a soft Brexit would've been accepted both by parliament and the country as a whole. Yes it would've peed off the ERG headbanger types, but there would've been enough on the Labour side to see them off." Because I think it's a comforting thought that people still cling to and I don't know why. For a start it couldn't happen - May, even with her full on shrill Brexit means Brexit stance was never accepted as a True Believer and was thrown overboard. Her successor was chosen from a list of headbangers - anyone with even a sniff of "soft Brexit" about them wouldn't have become leader. There was no corner from which a soft brexit could emerge But even if I'm wrong and it was possible - it would still be lose lose. We lose access to power we had as a member. Leavers don't get their "sovereignty". It's such a large "what if", we may as well go full "What if" and talk about not having had teh referendum in first place, putting a threshold for such a constitutional rupture or having a ratifciation referendum on the table But this notion of "oh if only we could have had a soft Brexit" just doesn't hold water for me

when you have Norman Lamont and Michael Howard giving out about this bill, you know it's DOA