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chrisz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lordship Lane ---> Brick Lane Almost. It just needs a few cool bars, a few cool sneaker shops, an old brewery, a few cool people, a bit more irony, a few cool bagel shops, a giant D-face sculpture, a few more cool kids and a touch of slightly uneasy religious/cultural harmony and yeah, it's Brick Lane.

Liberties, yo. Snorky wasn't banned. He ran off wiv hiz tail between hiz legs, innit.

Thanks for the info, Nikki, and welcome to teh forum. I've read about this extenion before but will check it out your link when not half asleep. A tube station in Camberwell would be really handy and save the awful slog up Walworth Road on the 176.(6)

charliecharlie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hey horsebox are you trying to out visual me??? > could be pistols (or cans) at dawn... > I'll see your pistol and raise you a Boule Noire...Clack!

Just to add that the jetcomx.com video uses the awesome "atlantis" remix by LTJ Bukem. Ah, memories.... :-)

And anybody taking the 185 in or out of town must have seen this in Camberwell: Lex and Sten: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2522117837_4602c61418.jpg?v=0

'SCARY' by Eine http://www.timeout.com/img/41544/image.jpg

Eine's Letters - enjoy. I think they're great. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/85439592_ffc1361aee.jpg

charliecharlie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > new veggie indian restaurant - SMBS and > cheeseblock link Tis true there is a link. One of the SMBS guys was coming out of the chopsticks building on Friday afternoon. Hope it's going to be a bloody good Indian place and not just generic dishes. Does the fact that it will be veggie offer more hope?

Red Devil, I don't understand the point you are trying to make. You say graffiti goes deeper than being wanton vandalism but then in the next line appear to suggest that 'it is what it is'. I'm confused by this. And to be pedantic, the OP asked whether it was 'a pathetic attempt at visibility OR modern art'. You haven't really offered an answer to this question.

Perhaps at 15 years old many of the people claiming that they would do the right thing would have kept the money? Your beliefs/morals/sense of what's right and wrong can develop as you do, surely? Of course, an education worth ?15k per year would, one hopes, help to steer an angry, confused young man down the right path. Perhaps Shuurrrpppp needs to be held back a year?

^ ^That reads like a copypasta from the 4chan recipe book.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Human graffiti is no different than animals scent > marking their territory... Care to expand on this? You don't say whether you think it's a good/bad thing and it's too simplistic to compare graffiti to an animal marking it's territory. Sure, gang signs and names etc are thrown up on Walls but these are rarely of artistic merit. Can you draw (excuse the pun) no distinction between artists such as d-face (now living in se22 I believe) who has put 3D resin models in the street/ on buildings and which could be still described as graffiti, or Eine, whos 2-tone six-foot letters can be found all over shoreditch shop fronts and under bridges and which bring a real focal point to some otherwise drab surroundings and which were an antidote to the mindless scrawl which adorned many of the old shops prior to this, and the dripping, mindless postcodes which can be found sprayed all over estates across London? (posting from iphone so apologies for formatting, puntuality etc etc)

Has the wall been built 'around' Rome? Are you comparing East Dulwich to Rome? Anyway, to try answer to your thread title, which is very different to the questions that you pose in the thread, I say both. Like most things in life (and you, Tony, with your degree of wisdom and knowledge garnered over your many years in south London and beyond, should know this better than anybody)there is good graffiti and there is crap graffiti. If somebody has an eye for colour, shape, space and depth they can paint something that will potentially look great and brighten up a drab area or create something that has an element of social commentary to it. Also, if an artist has gone to great lengths to put their piece in a visible but dangerous / risky place then I'd be more impressed with this than a little shit that had just sprayed or etched their tag on a shopfront or bus window, /shutter/wall etc etc. This last example shows no imagination or talent. So it's impossible to categorise all graffiti simply as 'crap' or 'not crap'.

How was it?

...in an attempt to thwart wealthy foreigners jumping the queue for a new liver. Is this right? Should the donated organs go to the most needy, regardless of status or depth of pockets or should the transplant system follow the rules of capitalism and let money do the talking? bbc article

I support it in principle but only if Nasty Nigel and Beaver14 can drive the route exclusively.

If anybody has taken this route before you're likely to get a range of responses / prices depending on the company (Addison Lee can be 20-30% more expensive than a local firm) which may or may not be accurate / recent enough for you. Better off doing your own research and ringing around some minicab companies for actual prices.

Don't forget Nasty Nigel the 185 Bus Driver. He passes through ED on a daily basis and can be spotted by the steaming rage flowing from his angry little ears. It's quite a sight to behold.

Brockwell Lido is nice. It is outdoors though so can be a little bit bracing but it's good for the soul and never did our Victorian forefathers any harm.

Edited as not viable idea. Will retype on proper keyboard tomorrow.

I had a parcel (rare 12" vinyl) go missing about 2 months ago after the 'Sorry, you were out' card was put through the door (I was in at the time, of course.) At first the van driver told me he had left it with my electrician who he'd seen outside my flat and that it was he who must have stolen it, then both the van driver and the office manager tried to blame it on 2 of my neighbours, saying that they had left it in the care of 2 different addresses and that it must have been stolen by one of them. I submitted a claim/complaint and then a week later the van driver knocked on my door clutching the missing record. Apparently they had been cleaning / rearranging the depot shelving and found the missing parcel down the back of one of the shelves. There's a couple of good staff at that office but the driver and manager are both pretty arrogant and bloody useless, as well as being terrible liars when trying to cover their own backs. The managers name is Lee Cooper - I think I've got his number lying around somewhere so will try and dig it out but he rarely picks up his phone and his staff will admit that he screens his calls to avoid complaints from customers.

Indeed, Jeremy.

When you say 'banged' do you mean they smashed your windows and took the items? How do you know it happened at 6.40? Where you at home?

And harder working too. They don't spend all their time posting on message boards, unlike those lazy buggers from East Thames.