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Then let's rebel and see what happens ! I predict a riot, I predict a riot 😆

So sounds like some sort of petition or opposition needs to be brought into play along with support from our MPs to add weight to the argument. I'm sure large numbers of people would object to the unaccountable schemes being implemented without proper consultation or need. And before someone cry's "pollution issues" that's what the ULEZ is going to tackle and these schemes are just making it worse in other roads as people will still drive but are now prepared to sit in traffic whilst they do it. It's akin to raising duty on cigarettes to deter smoking, people will stretch their finances to buy them as they want / need them, which whilst it's comparing apples to porcupines is still how drivers and families will look at their cars and journeys especially when the weather starts getting worse.

That's subscriber only content tc Can you screen grab and post it or find another way of sharing it ?

Sorry Lynne, it was all good until that last one, the one that made all the sailors on HMS Ark Royal blush. I mean how on Earth ? Why on Earth and where on Earth were you ?

I guess if the council want to segregate businesses in the Village from customers then it can only be good for places like Lordship Lane and Northcross road. Both excellent places to shop !

hopskip Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Southwark have just published proposals on their > next Covid ETMO measures in case you haven't seen > it. > > Decision > page:http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgDelegated > Decisions.aspx?&RP=0&K=0&V=0&DM=0&HD=0&DS=0&Next=t > rue&META=mgdelegateddecisions&DR=09/08/2020-23/08/ > 2020. > Scroll down and look for the two links - Batch 2 > and Batch 3 (top and bottom of list currently) > > Here is the link?for the Area B/C Dulwich scheme > additions:http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssu > eHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50023654&Opt=0 > > Jaw dropping mess and implications. Our Cllrs > have obviously been supporting these for some > time..... Muppet's go on a bike crusade is my thoughts on this Where is the public consultation Where is the pre implementing monitoring and stats so that a post implementing comparison can be made? The changes around the village are going to have far reaching ramifications on other roads with no monitoring or care by the council. I'm surprised that there hasn't been a legal challenge over the way the council is putting it's iron boot down !

Correct Mr clucking, people want to keep their cars so that they can get directly to places safely without worrying about the weather, over crowded public transport or how much they need to carry on their journey. After all they've paid for their cars, pay ved and other taxes so what's wrong with wanting to drive. The big concern is that the council are implementing experimental schemes without consultation or proper monitoring of the before during and after metrics.

And there's more to come , see the response from councillor Lemming to this tweet https://twitter.com/CleanAirDulwich/status/1296852181832937473?s=09 from clean air for Dulwich Hold on for more problems !

Lynne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > New one this morning, my internet will be cut off > due to illegal activity. Please press 1 etc etc Sorry Lynne My fault I reported you for sending "those" pictures to me 😱

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Out of interest, can anyone who is in favour of > these closures please articulate to me why they > are necessary?" > > The dream is to make car ownership so unattractive > that everyone sells their cars and takes chances > with coronavirus on a local bus instead. And if cars are so despised who can you sell them to.

What is driving me crazy, is the Nay Sayers that are now getting air time For example this is a twitter link relating to Oldham stating that out of 1252 hospital beds in Oldham only 9 have covid patients in and that the public health authorities are out of control. (The number of cases in the community is a more useful comparison rather than cases needing hospital care) Yesterday nationally it was reported over 1,182 New cases up from 812 on Thursday. Statistics show that there is a rising no of cases yet there is a growing movement to say health authorities are out of control issuing local restrictions. Only a few months ago the press was leading a charge, supported by many, to say that the government wasn't quick enough to react when cases were going up and that the lock down was imposed too late. Now people are saying why are you locking down where I live because only 9 people are in hospital with Covid. What the actual fluck goes on in people's minds ? If hospitalisation and or deaths increase in places like Oldham it will be the governments fault, not the fact that people are ignoring the rules or objecting to lock down. Yet if the authorities step in people complain. All along with this pandemic, people aren't taking responsibility for their own actions and the effects it has on others and look for scapegoats. "It's DC's fault he broke the rules so I can" or "cases are low here so why should I follow what the authorities are advising." Logically If everyone had followed the rules and minimised going out during lock down, then the virus would have diminished in a matter of weeks (if it can't be transmitted due to a lack of contact it won't complete it's cycle of infection, transmission and infecting others) so obviously people are responsible for its transmission, not the authorities. Why are humans so complacent until something directly effects them then they look for a scapegoat rather than taking responsibility for their own actions?

JamesR777 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My opinion is that such virus exist and is > dangerous but our social media exaggerates > everything Is that all social media or just here on the edf ?

And how much will that cost their economy ? I dread to think how much financially the eurozone / Germans will be expected to fund it after.

Townleygreen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My car is keyless entry but you can't drive away > unless the key is in the car. Is this harder to > steal? Anyone know? Depends Do you have to press a button to unlock ? If so it's safer than the proximity keys that unlock as you approach the vehicle However either way once in the car they can access the system and program it to accept a new key to start it Things have progressed from using a crooklock to deter theft

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've been getting BT and Amazon on the landline in > the last few days. At least I could understand > them. Lol But they are in an obscure dialect called "American" 😆

That is a good question They can't charge you for a call they've made It's possibly something similar to the calls in the USA a few years ago https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whats-behind-all-those-chinese-speaking-robocalls/ Aimed at Chinese people telling them their immigration status was in question Ho li fuk as they say 😱

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Had a strange call earlier to my mobile, not > recognising the landline number I didn't answer > the call thinking it was someone probably > selling/scammimg etc, then Googled the code, it > was a Spalding (Lincs) number, while doing that I > got an alert to say a voicemail message had been > left, then listened to what sounded like a 20sec > message in Chinese. All very odd... An 01337 number ? As I had the same yesterday not sure what it was about as I hung up after the oriental recording started (couldn't say it was Chinese or not)

Now it gets worse Not only does the Mayor and council want us out of our cars, but now the Mayor wants us out of the buses. https://www.mylondon.news/news/local-news/london-bus-coronavirus-travel-rules-18788777 The idea is on certain routes to stop commuters on every other bus from boarding to make more room for school children. So those that can't walk or cycle now can't drive due to restrictions and soon won't be able to easily get a bus. This has to be some sort of joke! All this whilst they are encouraging us to go back to working in the office to help save businesses in places like Oxford Street. Talk about a disjointed transport strategy, no wonder there are questions about the mayoralty being in crisis https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53806962

Johnl , what's that got to so with pubs ?

Not Canadian Foxy foxy foxy think of the air miles they did just to get in your stomach !

andrewc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This makes interesting reading. A summary of 70 > traffic studies and the average 'traffic > evaporation' measured. > > https://www.onestreet.org/images/stories/Disappear > ing_traffic.pdf An 18 Year old paper that may not have accounted for the mass implementing of schemes across London which means traffic can't just evaporate but is pushed onto already busy roads resulting in gridlock and increased pollution 😱

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 11 posts, all about road closures. > How much do they pay you lot? > I'd ask for a pay rise Just shows the strength of people's feelings about the whole lack of consultation process by the council and even when they do consult the results are manipulated in favour of the councils goals (the CPZ results for example)

Try The fox project http://foxproject.org.uk/

Whilst you may have had it and unlikely to catch it full blown again, there isn't any evidence either way concerning if you could be a carrier and potentially able to spread it if you've been in contact with someone who's got it currently So much we still don't know about the virus.

exdulwicher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When you say "we" exduwlicher, does that mean you > work for the department of southwark council that > is (jointly) culpable for this? > > I was using "we" as the paraphrasing of what > they'll be saying. A typical political answer of not directly answering the question So in true Paxman style "Do you work directly or indirectly for Southwark or any other council?"