Spartacus

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have any of our councillors visited the ward to > see the impact of the recent changes? Abe We've told you before stop being so damn logical

Peter John decides to bring phase 4 of the healthy streets project forward and installs a fort in Dulwich Village "when the floods come we can tax them when using boats to get into the village" he tells the council chamber and his trusty side kick Pirate Jimbo

I wonder if people like Piers will be still shouting conspiracy if they actually caught Covid ? Or would they claim they were deliberately infected by the powers that be !

I've been involved in yet another accident ,careless me, and had great fun asking the real person at the other end "are you my mummy?" (Echos of doctor who came to mind) followed by "can you tell me where I left my toy car?" Strangely they hung up .. most disappointed in the resilience and perseverance of these people

Sigh This story shows how easy it is to catch and if caught how it can be spread to 180 others :BBC News - Coronavirus: Cases on Tui flight from Zante to Cardiff https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53966897

Johnl most people do kill two birds with one stone when going to the dump, be it going to the supermarket or DIY store after but the risk is by making the initial trip twice as long the impetus to do the second or even third task is lost as you need to return home first for the toilet 😱

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh dear- it's going UP > https://uk.yahoo.com/news/health-secretary-warns-e > xtensive-lockdowns-230154302.html Are you surprised? people have virtually forgotten about social distancing, others are travelling back from holiday destinations where the numbers are already rising and in a few days schools will go back and we will all be encouraged to go back to the offices. It's a shame that we aren't learning the mistakes made from countries like Spain and France where the numbers are already rising and trying to avoid the same mistakes here.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Like that we're still measuring important things > in inches Of course we are, ask any boy and the standard unit of todger measurement is the inch. Sadly as we've gone metric they tend to not understand the conversion so will overestimate by about 50% compared to reality 😱

I always wonder how extinction rebellion get to these demonstrations. Do they use the public transport systems they so despise including diesel buses, diesel electric trains, or drive ? Can't imagine they all walk to the events as that would take ages to get to them 😱

Mr Chicken gets so angry about cars on his healthy street that he starts throwing his toys out of his pram "Perhaps if they're quick enough they can block off both ends of the road and trap some cars inside" he mutters to himself as no-one else is listening

So sorry Mr. Clucking for getting your name wrong or should I say so sorry Peter John ? As that's what your consultation of one makes you sound like 😱

There isn't a petition set up yet, but if someone does then post details here and also make sure it covers the restrictions borough wide so as to include Peckham, Camberwell and the Walwortb road changes as you would get more signatures. Sadly if I started it as Spartacus it would lead to a slave revolution !

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A cat has come down with Covid-19. Don't ask meow. OMG The poor kitty , will it recover ? If dogs get it do they feel wruff ?

Had a scam email today telling me my TV licence was due to expire Watch out for this one as the TV licensing emails normally have your name and partial post code in them where as the scam ones don't

The campaign was backed up by alternatives , nicotine gum, patches, electronic cigarettes and so on. You are arguing that the campaign alone was responsible but as I said before it was a whole package that made it easier to occur and with only a campaign to stop people using cars without any form of alternatives that work for all then people will be reluctant to reduce car use and resent being told what to do. Simple solution is improve the transport infrastructure by adding increased service then people will have credible alternatives to get them out of their cars. Arguing that with less cars services can run faster isn't correct as more people getting on a bus result in longer periods at the stop so less traffic makes a very small impact on journey times. Therefore capacity needs to increase to spread the load over more buses to improve loading and unloading times resulting in faster overall journeys. But the cost of improving services is eye watering so no one is going to invest. It has to be carrot and stick, not just stick to make it work.

You are correct johnl it did , but a large proportion of smokers just swallowed the cost and carried on. The introduction of alternatives (electronic cigarettes) has actually been the biggest modal shift to change habits of smokers not punishing taxes and in that vein the fact that no credible alternatives are being offered (better transport infrastructure for example) that suits everyone, not just the young and fit (cycling and walking) is why people are wed to their cars and these schemes will just lead to congestion and pollution on other local roads. If the mayor, council and government were serious then they would be implementing total solutions including public transport improvements , new railways, more bus routes and other modes of transport before impacting car journeys. It's got to be a total solution not tinkering at the edges and it needs to be in conjunction with residents to understand their local needs / requirements and not just based on a few people's comments or the councils perceptions.

Then let's rebel and see what happens ! I predict a riot, I predict a riot 😆

So sounds like some sort of petition or opposition needs to be brought into play along with support from our MPs to add weight to the argument. I'm sure large numbers of people would object to the unaccountable schemes being implemented without proper consultation or need. And before someone cry's "pollution issues" that's what the ULEZ is going to tackle and these schemes are just making it worse in other roads as people will still drive but are now prepared to sit in traffic whilst they do it. It's akin to raising duty on cigarettes to deter smoking, people will stretch their finances to buy them as they want / need them, which whilst it's comparing apples to porcupines is still how drivers and families will look at their cars and journeys especially when the weather starts getting worse.

That's subscriber only content tc Can you screen grab and post it or find another way of sharing it ?

Sorry Lynne, it was all good until that last one, the one that made all the sailors on HMS Ark Royal blush. I mean how on Earth ? Why on Earth and where on Earth were you ?

I guess if the council want to segregate businesses in the Village from customers then it can only be good for places like Lordship Lane and Northcross road. Both excellent places to shop !

hopskip Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Southwark have just published proposals on their > next Covid ETMO measures in case you haven't seen > it. > > Decision > page:http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgDelegated > Decisions.aspx?&RP=0&K=0&V=0&DM=0&HD=0&DS=0&Next=t > rue&META=mgdelegateddecisions&DR=09/08/2020-23/08/ > 2020. > Scroll down and look for the two links - Batch 2 > and Batch 3 (top and bottom of list currently) > > Here is the link?for the Area B/C Dulwich scheme > additions:http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssu > eHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50023654&Opt=0 > > Jaw dropping mess and implications. Our Cllrs > have obviously been supporting these for some > time..... Muppet's go on a bike crusade is my thoughts on this Where is the public consultation Where is the pre implementing monitoring and stats so that a post implementing comparison can be made? The changes around the village are going to have far reaching ramifications on other roads with no monitoring or care by the council. I'm surprised that there hasn't been a legal challenge over the way the council is putting it's iron boot down !

Correct Mr clucking, people want to keep their cars so that they can get directly to places safely without worrying about the weather, over crowded public transport or how much they need to carry on their journey. After all they've paid for their cars, pay ved and other taxes so what's wrong with wanting to drive. The big concern is that the council are implementing experimental schemes without consultation or proper monitoring of the before during and after metrics.

And there's more to come , see the response from councillor Lemming to this tweet https://twitter.com/CleanAirDulwich/status/1296852181832937473?s=09 from clean air for Dulwich Hold on for more problems !

Lynne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > New one this morning, my internet will be cut off > due to illegal activity. Please press 1 etc etc Sorry Lynne My fault I reported you for sending "those" pictures to me 😱