Spartacus

On the BBC website today, there is a story about the report by the Runnymede trust into BAME risks through the covid pandemic. BBC News - Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'over-exposed' to Covid-19 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53651954 Whilst I'm only extracting a small part from it for this thread it is worth reviewing. Part of the report highlights "The survey found those from ethnic minority backgrounds were also more likely to say they had used public transport during lockdown - which could increase the chance of transmission because they are enclosed spaces." With this in mind, does it not imply that we are all (regardless of race) actually safer commuting in our cars than on public transport as there is a lower risk of virus transmission and whilst cycling and walking is an option for those who can or want to, the blanket war in motorists could be responsible for increased levels of virus transmission in the future if people are pushed out of their cars and onto public transport ? There is possibly a strong argument to promote increased cleaner car usage not less to help prevent future pandemics.

My father used to ask , when I did something silly spurned on by my mates, if your mates jumped off a cliff would you ? Nowadays people look for an excuse for not taking responsibility for their own actions. So DC didn't jump off a cliff but the generic question remains. Why did you?

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the irony is that the younger ones are spreading > it about but it's older people who will get locked > down! Can you imagine the complaints by the young if it was the other way around.. "You oldies have ruined this planet now you are killing us" Maybe us oldies should start a similar cry "The cotton wool generation are trying to wipe us out" or something similar 😆

Or another alternative to the evil MM

I think Abe's point is that they are conspicuous by their absence when an awkward question or subject is presented to them.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A bit like the opposite of burning-down allotment > sheds. > Some tinder and a match then boom you have a fire > in seconds, but hours of satisfaction watching it > burn (unless the fire brigade arrives). Is there something you need to tell us Kid ? Backs away slowly hiding matches and lighters ....

lindylou Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If you?re talking to other people you should > > probably try harder to make sense > > > > And to have some idea what you?re taking about > > I know exactly what I'm talking about. I was born > and bred here. I remember the Brixton riots and, > believe me, that was terrifying. What you're going > to see soon is nothing compared to that. I'm done > with this forum. It's not open to discussion. > Every time someone has a differing opinion they're > shot LL it's the fact that you haven't been fully clear in explaining what you are talking about and what your real fear is Who are the bb ? What exactly are they asking for and what's the result of they don't get it ? No one is shooting you down, they just don't clearly see your argument as it needs clarity in presenting

I'm confused What does this refer to The closest I can find for MM is mutual mass debating If that's coming this way then I'm afraid of a return to swinging and pampas grass !

lameduck Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > that's it Spartacus > The youngsters think they invented it > we done that in the 50's > also get a big button black cotton > find house with tree branches near upstairs > window. > Climb tree suspend button on branch, everytime > wind blows tap tap on window > gets them confused for ages > we were wicked Also when cars were less frequent (70s), get up early, tie strong cotton or light fishing line to door knockers on opposite sides of the road going all the way up First car up the road in the morning would pull the lines before breaking them resulting in door knockers being lifted then falling to make a single knock on virtually every house up the road. Hours of fun setting up for a brief moment of satisfaction, bit like domino rallies Totally off thread but why don't kids have the imagination or freedom to play like that these days. As for the milk,a milk safe is a very good idea or a motion activated camera to see who's doing it

I've never actually seen a live one. James Barber once walked past after he lost his seat but a live elected one, never Maybe they are like chatbots programmed with a limited number of council authorised answers and if challenged they default to "speak to my supervisor" mode (who also doesn't exist) 🙊

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You could also slip in a white dog turd if you > find one of the legendary beasts that can still be > spotted around ED now and again :) Tripe That's what causes them 😅

The sour milk element doesn't work as they smell it as soon as its open. The hidden surprise is better, especially if they are drinking it on the way to work 😱.

When I was younger and everyone had milk, one trick was to grab the milk as soon as it arrives,carefully take the top off without damaging it then put out an empty bottle filled with milk and a few dog ends. (If you smoked) or something else equally horrible but small enough to hide in the milk which then drops out into their tea / krispies and put the too back on carefully. The thief gets a nasty surprise and tends not to come back to the same address tons steal from.

Foxy , with all your medical conditions I would have thought you would be the last person to question pubs staying open over stopping the virus taking hold again. It is sad that pubs may need to close again if numbers go up but then again as the Great British public have almost forgotten about social distancing thinking the numbers are so low that it's safe out, then we only have each other to blame for any new increase in cases and any reversals of measures. Best way to keep pubs open is wear a mask when outside of your own home, don't get too close to others outside your immediate group, keep washing your hands and isolate & get tested if you feel ill. If we all do these simple things hopefully the uplift in cases will turn back down again. The power to keep pubs open (and other businesses) is totally in our own hands.

Wasn't yesterday "Love Parks" day ? Maybe it was all related to that event 😎

Clutter queen please post the link to the regulations on southwarks website to back up your statement as they don't have the legislative powers to ban bonfires.

Yes you can https://www.gov.uk/smoke-control-area-rules As long as it doesn't produce dark smoke (I.E. if burning plastics) And as for bonfire being illegal , southwarks web site says you can report them if they are smoky but in general they aren't illegal unless causing a smoke nuisance (burning dry wood is fine , wet wood not) They can not act on reports of the smell of a fire as smell is not part of the legislation. It's an urban myth that southwark have banned bonfires as they don't have the authority to make that a regulation ..

Pot Roasted Cockerel https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/recipe/pot-roasted-cockerel

Edcam the deaths are not the question, it's the number of new infections and how many people each infected person passes the infection onto. Death comparison at this stage is like comparing elephants to apples as Spain's infection rate is increasing whilst ours (despite a few small pockets) is falling and death from covid occurs a period of time after infection not immediately on contraction. Do you really want to see the air bridge reopened possibly bringing a second wave to our shores with potential to mutate and get even more deadly? Is it that your dislike of the government is so strong that you would want to see more deaths here just as long as it gets a vote of no confidence in the Tory's ? I'm struggling to understand your logic. I really don't think even you are that callous unless of course you are directly affected by the effective closure of Spain to UK tourists, in which case my sympathy is with you for the loss of your holiday which is 1000 times better than the loss of your life

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see there are a few here who have fallen for the > con. What's the nature of this con ? I'm confused or are you a conspiracy theory loo loo who thinks covid was made up 😱

Also deaths tend to lag weeks or months behind increases in infection rates, which is what is happening in Spain. Therefore your inaccurate comparison between deaths (which was lower last week than the number you are quoting) and new infections is not really a comparison. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ shows 258 deaths due to covid between 22nd and 27th July.

With Covid 19 on the rise in Spain, whilst it's not welcome news for anyone booked to go to or currently in Spain, I am finding today's headlines a bit strange including "Holiday Chaos" and "Millions of Summer Holidays ruined" I believe the advice when air corridors were introduced was that travel was at your own risk and the measures could change at short notice. The headlines however don't seem to take into account that there is still a pandemic out there and the change in travel advice has been introduced to hopefully avoid a second wave occurring in the UK. It's almost as if the media have forgotten all those that caught Covid and the pain and suffering families went through and are just focusing on sensational headlines to stir anger and panic.

300 conductors on the new routemasters were terminated in 2016 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36764417 They were employed to run the new fleet and more were supposed to be rolled out as more routemasters were introduced. Fact checked and proven PeckhamPam

This, whilst from Surrey, may help https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/law-cockerel-noise-complaints-what-14067921