Spartacus

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Transport for London's own analysis suggests that > 41% of *all* trips in London are easily cycleable > (less than 5 miles; no heavy load; traveler is > under 64; traveler has no relevant disability). > > If the traffic's bothering you, don't forget you > *are* the traffic. Walk or cycle. I'll strap my false legs on then, didn't realise it was as simple as telling the lame "get up and cycle/walk you are cured of your ailments my child" Sadly a vast majority of the people who rely on cars have them for very valid reasons.

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know James is new to this and hasn't spent much > time here so may not be aware of the historical > issues, but surely Charlie Smith could have told > him that tfl won't countenance traffi2c lights on > that junction Maybe they are playing the long game waiting for tfl to go bust and then there will be no objections 😱

Interesting So a technique of grabbing negative issues by the council which could in a cynical world, be used to introduce measures without getting positive perspective on the area They need to properly engage and also ask if people don't have problem otherwise two cyclists (for example) could get a street closed as no-one made any positive comments saying there is no issues along the same street Just my musings mind

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 25 years ago London population 6.8 million and is > now 8.8million. > Forecast is London population will increase from > 8.8 to 10.8million residents over the next 25 > years. > If the same ratio drive then driving gets much > much harder. Roads much more congested. Even the > same ratio of people walking, cycling see's many > more people travelling by these methods wanting > and demanding better conditions to walk and cycle. > Public transport becomes ever less pleasant with > over crowding. > > Doing nothing makes everyone cross and would be no > way to try managing this huge population > increase. > Trying to make changes to reduce the proportion of > car driving for journeys will also cause huge > angst, and worry for those who are essential car > drivers. Just wait a few years and between the headline below and the pandemic, population numbers in London will fall solving your too many people problem BBC News - Fertility rate: 'Jaw-dropping' global crash in children being born https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53409521

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I made a point of checking Effra's concerns about > East Dulwich Grove traffic backing up for myself. > > 7.50 Dulwich Village junction of EDG - virtually > no traffic or queueing on three arms. The arm > going north from the village had circa 15 cars > just before going green which all passed through > on green. > 8.20 EDG/Townley Road. Just before the lights go > green 5 cars queuing going west and 4 cars + 1 bus > queuing going East. All passed through on green. > Private schools are on summer holidays which will > reduce traffic levels. But carmegeddon East > Dulwich Grove is not. Hardly an official traffic census on all roads in and around the changes James It's a bit like the pro cpz brigade saying on Tuesday last week my road was so full of cars you couldn't get a piece of paper between them we demand a CPZ But on the Anti CPZ brigade say on Thursday there were loads of spaces I don't see your problem Without a recognised before, and after survey over a sustained period (not just a snap shot as used ) then there is no evidence that it is or isn't working Casual observation and hearsay isn't evidence ! The real issue here is lack of proper supporting evidence or consultation by the council and without it people are rightly going to complain. If you want to do something to help then try campaigning to get the council to actually engage and listen to the full population and not just the vocal locals who shout the loudest.

There's been a lot of suggestions on here and elsewhere that if car owners / drivers don't like the changes then they should move. Can you imagine the outcry if drivers told cyclists that if they don't like breathing in the fumes then they should move ? Possibly best neither side goes down that antagonistic route as it won't win either side friends or the argument.

Great idea James_c If people don't like it they should move, despite their background in the area, where they work and what contribution they make to the community What a sensible idea. I'll just flog the place I've spent most of my life in during a house price lull just so that you can cycle in safety Strewth !

Trinnydad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry to say that One Dulwich is an abysmal > failure. Not organised, no plan, no hope. > Southwark and TFL must be relieved they are only > dealing with a bunch of well-mannered, genteel old > fuddy dudders. Is that an opinion or can you show what your evidence is ?

I've just ordered a Darth Vader voice changing mask for trips out to the supermarket. May not be the best protection but when someone complains the self checkout isn't working I will take great delight in saying "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed"

I always think of "Day of the Triffids" when someone mentions comet watching I guess in terms of watching, if the sky is clear of clouds then Crystal Palace might be a good point

No idea It could well be a few residents who have stumped up a small amount of cash and some of them could have skills in design and so on. Most of the original members were based in the village so I suspect no shortage of skills or money. Or are you concerned that they have funding via the council which would be typically ironic if it was true.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spartacus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > bsand Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Down that rabbit hole post COVID and > companies > > > saying you can work from home. A 3/4 bedder > on > > > Crystal Palace Road or this.... > > > > > > > > > https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prop > > > > > > erty-92775137.html > > > > > > (Approximately 2 Acres) > > > > > > Dulwich or Benfleet > > > > Hmmmm no brainer really Dulwich every time > > 😱 > > People moving to Devon and the Welsh Borders in > just my limited group - so it's more than Dulwich > versus The Suburbs. Sorry , you misinterpreted my comment Moving out yes but Benfleet no

bsand Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Down that rabbit hole post COVID and companies > saying you can work from home. A 3/4 bedder on > Crystal Palace Road or this.... > > https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prop > erty-92775137.html > > (Approximately 2 Acres) Dulwich or Benfleet Hmmmm no brainer really Dulwich every time 😱

I'm not sure if I can blame the royal mail or the charities involved but during lockdown I've adopted a Tiger, 2 Donkeys and a huddle of Penguins and not one of them has arrived through the post yet. The smell in the sorting office must be driving the staff mad by now !

"Next Southwark is planning to make Peckham Rye east side (the bit by the Rye pub) cycle & bus only" How will this work as the only way to go to Nunhead if you come from the direction of Forest Hill (including if you come along Barry Road) is to go to the turn at the coop building in Peckham, come back on yourself and the go along the east side and turn left towards Nunhead Equally if you are coming from the Copeland Road direction and want to go to East Dulwich Road (or beyond) you can't currently turn left or right at the East Dulwich Road / Peckham Rye junction so you have to go along the east side, turn right at the lights and approach the junction that way. Closing of the east side will cause major issues going anywhere which will see cars being forced to use side roads to get to their destination. Very badly thought through by the council as it is systematically cutting East Dulwich off from its neighbouring areas without thinking of the impacts on other roads or how the disabled and elderly will travel. Let's prey what you you suggest above simply isn't true.

singalto Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did I read that there is no longer a right turn > from LLonto the South Circular at the Grove > Tavern? What does the P13 do now? You can still turn right It's just a long queue to do it

lbsmith73 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think you are on to something there... Really I > am a car owner and to be honest all the traffic > made me change my behaviours. I now cycle the 9 > miles to work and it is quicker than driving and > the train. It keeps me in shape, saves on gym > fees, good for the environment and you only need a > bit of wet weather gear from time to time. Not to > mention it has saved me a fortune in fuel and rail > fares. I know it?s difficult but change is hard > and sometimes you have to look beyond your own > needs. Lordy above A born again cyclist Praise be 😂 Next we can cure the lame and make them cycle again 😱

Perfect summary Rockets And the comment about mCASH being missing in action is spot on

I wonder what new tactic the scam callers will use when the council gets their way and no one can drive so none of us will be involved in accidents ?

I just had a call (automated) telling me they've been informed I've been involved in an accident is this correct ? "Yes" I said When did this happen ? "Yesterday" I said I'm just transferring you to my supervisor the automated voice said who then asked what happened "I'm in hospital now after a bus ran over my leg and they amputated it this morning" I moaned Then (and this is classic) the supervisor said "thank you for making it up" and hung up on me Classic

That's age springtime And you could get two ten penny chews for a shinny new penny 😃

Four geeks drive around in an ambulance before crossing beams and toasting a giant marshmallow

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've spent two days trying to come up with a > boring one liner for Ghostbusters....and assuming > I'm being fair to the storyline of the film, and > not just copping out by saying something like '3 > scientists buy an old firestation'...it sounds > awesome no matter how I cut it..... Depends if you mean the original or remake I guess ?

Two friends try to be scary but aren't

Some price rises are down to suppliers increasing their costs and not the business trying to get extra income. It's a tricky one to judge and different stores may charge different prices depending on their stock levels and when they get a delivery (supplier prices may go down as demand decreases or up if supplier stock levels are low ) So before you judge a store / business make sure it is them and not the supply chain