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Will be interesting to see if the Borough wide CPZ also gets caught up in the process. Again an abuse of the consultation process.

It always had turnstiles so one assumes never free. I just came across a report about what happened to the money from 2 years ago. https://www.peckhamryepark.org/news/2016/7/17/former-lido-site Looks like it funded a feasibility study that shows it needed 6 million to deliver but of course we were in a pandemic then and cost of living crisis now so I am hoping that the scheme will be revisited in gje future as it will be great for the area.

Why not Alice ? I there was a lido there once before

Mal London is not feasible as a 15 minute city, whilst there are pockets of similar facilities spread across London, some things just can't be local so travel of more than 15 minutes is essential. Even removing all cars, buses can't physically get from one area to the next in 15 minutes unless thw driver is doing 80 and not picking up passengers. Personally I think it is sensible that things are being reviewed and revaluated to make sure those that work stay and those that haven't are removed to keep everyone moving.

Two busy roads with good bus interchanges for passengers to get to rather than driving 🤔, also the location of the old lido and I believe the plan was to crowd find it rather than rely on Southwark to run it . Nothing disastrous about any of that in my mind Alice

I see tooting bec lido is getting more work done What a shame the proposed lido at peckham rye didn't go ahead BBC News - Tooting Bec Lido to get refurbishment of public facilities https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66959987

This popped up in feed this morning https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/pm-expected-to-limit-new-20mph-zones/ar-AA1hqR1u?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=09d8efec03044371b5d3b6be83833b3f&ei=29 Talking about the potential changes that may be introduced by the government. It is quoted as saying "He (Rishi) is reportedly planning to limit the power of local authorities to impose new 20mph zones, restrict the number of hours a day that cars are banned from bus lanes, and scale back low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs)" However I love the quote further iin which is 'Sarah Mitchell, chief executive of charity Cycling UK, said: “When Beeching took an axe to local railways in the 1960s, we were robbed of the freedom to choose how we travel. The Government’s reported Plan for Motorists feels like history repeating itself."' Isn't that a little pot and kettle saying that as the cycling lobby seems to want to remove our freedom of choice to drive 🤔 Politics huh, everyone spinning but none making sense.

I wonder how Southwarks ideal to remove cars from streets will tally with the Mayors drive to charge to drive. His latest salvo is of course the plan to charge for using the Blackwall tunnel. If there are no cars, TfL will face a drop in revenue from congestion, ULEZ and road / tunnel tolls. Would love to see how them circle's are squared off!

Is this going to increase traffic going towards and using the south circular as East Dulwich Grove is an alternative route to Brixton or Tulse Hill ?

That's going to be interesting for the 37 bus 🫣 EAST DULWICH GROVE, SE22: Route 37 is on diversion in both directions via Herne Hill, Denmark Hill, Champion Park, Grove Lane and Grove Vale due to Thames Water works. Buses towards Putney Heath/Green Man will not serve stops ‘Derwent Grove’(B) to ‘Herne Hill’(E). Buses towards Peckham Bus Station will not serve stops ‘Herne Hill’(D) to ‘Derwent Grove’(U). Please allow extra time for your journey.

Therein lies the crux of the matter, many of the roads that are being considered for a Borough wide CPZ don't currently have parking issues hence why it may well be an over reach of legal powers. Well argued in favour of not imposing a CPZ ex, hats off for joining the revolution

Mal, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye

Have I opened up the Viz app by mistake ?

Oh I don't know Mal, as the article was a quote from Sergeant Stuart Ford, Cycle Response Unit, it does seem like it was aimed at cyclists. But that's just my reading of it

I thought that was black taxi drivers from Essex ?

I love the justification by James mCash "But once the zones are established, we receive many positive comments from residents about how much nicer and safer their communities feel" Beside removing some existing on street parking, including residents parking over their own driveways, there is no real change to the street space to validate that comment. Plus how many is "many" in his quote ? Maybe he should become a spin consultant and not a teacher 🤔

Betty, as well as contacting your kical councillors, Copy in James mCash and your MP as they should be aware of this and ask for their assistance to resolve the issues. With the dumping issue, if you gave a crime reference showing when your car was stolen then approach lambeth council and lodge an appeal using the crime reference as evidence. If they refuse then take it to https://www.lgo.org.uk/ to raise an issue with Lambeth

If you had read it correctly, you would see that I am not comparing rape and sexual assault to anything at all, I am highlighting the issue that social media plays in assuming guilt without a trial. What if, a bit of a stretch of anyones imagination, he is totally innocent of the crimes he is accused off? Could the reputational damage be undone? Let's look at the Depp vs Heard situation where film studios dropped him lile a tonne of bricks due to the accusations she made, yet at the end he was found mostly innocent. In the process, his reputation was damaged and it may be so damaged that he never has a big role again! Whilst bad news sells, there has to be a balance to make sure that Madia (press and social) doesn't try someone with out a jury.

Out-of curiosity, are you advocating cycling in a shared space on the road with vehicle pollution only a few inches away against cycling through a greener space with less direct pollution ?

It's already a pathway, the only change would be making it a solid surface, its not going to take anything away from the green space and will add more users to the space to enjoy it.

Ad mentioned above, a cycleway is great but why not build it in the park where the current dirt path is? That would remove all conflict between vehicles and cyclists and make for a more pleasant cycling experience. I suspect it would also have cost savings over redesigning a road to include a cycleway.

Let's be honest Mal It's a political announcement, the motor industry is moving towards the 2030 electric target as regardless of what we set, Europe and other countries are moving at a pace towards electric vehicles and a manufacturer isn't going to set up a separate petrol production line just for the UK. In 2030, regardless of the announcement yesterday, it will be very hard to buy a new petrol or diesel car. However the delay does give the national grid a bit more time to upgrade the network and generation facilities as it has become obvious that the current inferstructure won't be able to cope if we all switch to electric cars overnight.

Looks like Tower Hamlets are the latest to remove LTNs BBC News - Tower Hamlets Council to scrap LTN road closure scheme https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66872320 The main reason quoted by their Mayor is "While LTNs improve air quality in their immediate vicinity, they push traffic down surrounding arterial roads, typically lived on by less affluent residents" Sounds familiar ?

Part of this discussion also focused on the planned resurfacing of Barry Road (Upland Road junction) Has this now been given a new date ?