Spartacus

That's worrying as it smacks of influencing young minds to be the councils voice. Last time I heard of this sort of behaviour was pre 1939 in Germany where school children were used to report non conformation to the party line ... Can't wait till the leader of the council publishes his book "My Fight"

Metallic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So who knew the Council had designed a special > consultation survey for schoolchildren? Please elaborate further

Just done the online survey As others have said, it's a bit like the council are leading a bull by a ring through its nose as it all seems very biased towards "rate how successful the scheme is" and if you disagree with any of the aims then it's off to the Fray Bentos pie factory for you (other brands of tinned meat pies are of course also available !) I can see why people are saying "return to the original state" I especially love the question about has the scheme "created a good trading environment for local businesses ?" 😱

Everything else aside, back to the original question raised When ?

Bet your bottom dollar that they are related to to high street recovery fund https://www.southwark.gov.uk/business/support-for-high-streets?chapter=2 Which if they are, means some bright spark has spent some of the money destined to help high streets improve , on banners ! Hopefully the funding will be used for something good and not more street art / wacky painting schemes.

Keep digging that hole Nigello \ / \ / \/ China's down this way

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, I agree tehre are few things to consider but > it is all about the greater good, don't you think? > I think preventing build up of traffic and an > increase in noxious fumes at a narrowed section of > the road trumps the occasional inconvenience to a > much smaller number of people. It's a truism, but > you really can't have it all. Also, is your > statement about elderly or disabled people based > on your own experience or that of a person you are > close to, or are you conjecturing how every such > person would think? I know a few disabled people > and they have a variety of views on many different > things and don't like to be seen as a unit. The > wheelchair user is also highly mobile and would > not balk at an extra two minutes' wheeling, so > that is a concrete example of someone who would > not be inconvenienced despite their body's > limitations. Personal experience using a wheelchair! With the closure of Rye Lane stopping me accessing the cinema there as buses no longer go up Rye Lane , and the closure of this bus stop I am no longer able to get to either of my local cinemas. Not wanting it all but I do want the same equal opportunity to see a film like you do and why should I and others be forced to "wheel" a bit further because you don't think it's an inconvenience? Frankly your statement about "the greater good" smacks off disability discrimination on your behalf.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think it is needed, to be honest. It is a > very narrow footpath and the next stop is really > not that far away. Faster journeys help everyone > so a little bit of inconvenience for the few will > help more - you know, community spirit, greater > good, etc. Similarly, the two stops very close > togetehr on Peckham Rye are an oddity. The stop allows disabled and elderly people to easily access the picture house. Whilst the stop outside the post office isn't far for an able bodied person, think how much of a challenge it is for someone in a wheelchair or with mobility issues. It could make the difference between staying home or going out to see a movie and being social for some Walk a few feet in their wheelchair tracks rather than make such a bold statement that it's a bit of inconvenience !!!

Siduhe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now I feel old.... > > "Renew, Renew" Is this sanctuary Siduhe

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spartacus wrote: > > > Are you advocating we live in > > "the city of domes" till we're 30 > > and get to go on "Carrousel" ? > > > > Oh lordy hope you're not Jessica 6 > > I don't recognise a single one of those > references. You're obviously not the old man that Logan 5 met and your crystal hasn't turned red otherwise you would have spotted the references to "Logan's Run" (it was released in 1976 so over 30 years ago)

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spartacus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > To be honest , vehicles are just tools used by > humans and the biggest contribution to poor air > quality is humans. > > > Whilst it's not politically correct, maybe these > discussions should be focusing on reducing the > population which would result in bigger > environmental gains. > > > Reduced number of cars, no flying on holiday, > Growing what we needed eat so less use of bogs > and > > woodlands for food, reduced demands on > diminishing resources and metals (iron... ) and > less carbon > > dioxide pumped out by our lungs.... > > > > No one is going to promote reducing population > for example by birth control) and with China > raising the family limit to 3 children, us > reducing green house gasses is like peeing in the > wind. > > > We've got a relatively low birth rate, but as with > France we are an aging population without the > young to look after us. So we get people from > countries with higher birth rates and lower > average age to do this for us (care homes, NHS as > the like) - although Brexit has made this a bit > more difficult (Eastern Europeans). The > alternative is to have isolated older people > looked after by robots (the way Japan is going). > Sorry incredibly off thread. > > > Sorry I am a bit of an anorak. Are you advocating we live in "the city of domes" till we're 30 and get to go on "Carrousel" ? Oh lordy hope you're not Jessica 6

DulwichCentral Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There are more cars on the roads because people > still aren't using public transport. > > If increased public transport is, as is often > stated here, a preferred alternative to LTNs, then > it follows that the current *reduction* of public > transport usage is having a negative impact and > the actual results of experimental low-traffic > measures can't be properly assessed until public > transport is running at pre-pandemic levels. I believe buses and trains are currently running to pre pandemic schedules and levels and the 30 passenger limit on buses has now been removed. The possibility that people are avoiding using public transport as it is a risk infection wise may be something to consider But saying that the current reduction in public transport is a factor is incorrect. But I stand to be corrected.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here?s some more info on causes of London?s air > pollution. Again, suggests vehicles are a major > contributor > https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/download/file/fi > d/21944 To be honest , vehicles are just tools used by humans and the biggest contribution to poor air quality is humans. Whilst it's not politically correct, maybe these discussions should be focusing on reducing the population which would result in bigger environmental gains. Reduced number of cars, no flying on holiday, Growing what we needed eat so less use of bogs and woodlands for food, reduced demands on diminishing resources and metals (iron... ) and less carbon dioxide pumped out by our lungs.... No one is going to promote reducing population (for example by birth control) and with China raising the family limit to 3 children, us reducing green house gasses is like peeing in the wind.

And ?

If you haven't been told to isolate then you should be fine But the test will put your mind to rest

Are you asking if you should ignore the alert ? Did it tell you to self isolate? If so you need to read this https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/if-youre-told-to-self-isolate-by-nhs-test-and-trace-or-the-covid-19-app/ Only you can decide if you follow the advice or not, however if you have been exposed and are asymptomatic then how will you feel if you infect others? Ultimately your choice but as you downloaded the app then you are already demonstrating your responsibility and I suspect you will do the right thing if asked.

I thought this was a thread about a new vinyl pressing title by Miss Spears. So confused and disappointed now !

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think your predicament is as bad as you > think. 1161 posts over a 13 year period works out > as 1.72 posts a week on average. Are you sure > something else isn't to blame for this condition? What are you trying to suggest 🤔

I am a decades-long forumite, antagonist and now of course, angry LTN poster . My posture is increasingly knackered from leaning over my phone and my fingers are red raw from angry stabbing at the keyboard. After looking up a few articles I'm looking for someone to diagnose and assist in fighting back. Are other posters in a similar position and are we all in danger of ending up with twisted postures and fat fingers on one hand from typing on small devices? Do we need to set up EDF anonymous so we can (virtually) talk about our addiction and get community support?

Rah , that maybe so but from every virus / zombie film I've seen the whole world should have been prepared for a global pandemic. Thank the stars we don't have alien invasion films......

James Is there information / minutes you can share ?

Foxy, for someone who objected so much to what was on sale at Franklin's, you sure seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge of their stock and prices Did you just go in to look and moan or actually support a local business by shopping there ?

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It find it rather hypocritical that many are only > bothered by the elderly and/or those with mobility > issues, or air quality, when it suits their > agenda. > Try being disabled or elderly and see how many seemingly simple things for the able bodied become a challenge, then discover that additional issues (no buses for example) are added to your burden then realise that removing people's mobility is the straw that breaks their backs Stop sitting there smugly with the view that it's not an inconvenience and look at it from others perspective to realise that small changes have big impacts on people. If you think that's hypercritical then you are showing how insensitive you are to others in society.

redpost Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lynne Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Completely agree. Bring back the buses. This is > > just driving trade to supermarkets with > carparks. > > What utter bilge, most parts of the rye are no > further than 200m from a bus stop (bus station / > stops opposite greggs / south end stops outside > tesco express). > > Why not think about the traders on the lane who > can now breathe clean air all day? What about the elderly, infirmed or disabled who find 200m equivalent to 2 miles ? Walk (or don't) in their shoes for a day before making such blatant statements like that !

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