Oh dear I don't seem to be making my point very well do I ? You had said " Good grief. The council does something for nothing and people complain about it ." I just thought ( still do ) that people shouldn't expect Southwark to cut their garden hedge for them and that saying such an action was for free missed the point that there is a cost involved . I must have missed your post where you say you pay your council tax and don't begrudge it . I thought ( obviously wrongly ) that your comment " I get feck all from the council for my ?1000+ a year "gave the impression that you saw council tax very much in terms of what you personally got out of it. However James has explained that Southwark seek to recover the cost of cutting hedges so hopefully this won't reduce monies available for other things like repairing roads and pavements . ( Which funnily enough aren't only used by my mother .) I mentioned my personal interest in negotiating pavements in response to another poster who I felt had implied that I might have a different view if I too experienced difficulties . And as you seem interested - I have no children at school ,don't live in council housing ,am not in receipt of home care or meals on wheels and I maintain my own garden . I do however benefit from living in a borough that does provide such services and this ,in turn ,benefits me personally .