Hello, John Doe here - in my family we are all looked after - I have a decent job that pays very well, and my mrs has a part-time job that she loves. we eat well, we have several holidays a year. I drive a big Beamer, the mrs a smart little run-around. I wear saville row suits and the Mrs has all the designer wear she cares for. Kids go to great schools and have all the latest gadgets. Oh, I am forgetting my daughter, ******, She lives in the cupboard under the stairs. We keep her on a frugal diet and she wears all the hand me downs of the others. We get her to do all the cooking, cleaning and washing. she's up pretty late most nights getting it done - but then someones got to do it. I was worried about posting this until i read some of the comments on this thread. But now I know that people won't think ill of me because it's not the gap between the rich and the poor that matters, its the fact that there are poor people that matters. Our daughter cannot complain she's only relatively poor - she has a roof over her head and is fed. The fact we are wealthy means she is doing OK. Sorted. Alan, whilst I agree with many of your comments, and they have made me re-visit my opinions, we surely don't live in a purely economic sense - we also live emotionally and ethically. You state "It may be counterintuitive to some but the existence of a super rich makes poor people less poor in absolute terms but poorer in relative terms. I believe that the relative measures are unimportant." I sure is counterintuitive to me. The fact that a country like the UK is relatively wealthy and has strong social structures means that we can turn our attention to solving some of the social and economic inequalities. Being a crazy idealist, I want to live in a society that considers this important. citizen