Mick Mac

Yeah. Lets make the country uncompetitive and demotivated - that should work.

Sub prime had a lot, but not all, to do with the financial crisis and that certainly wasn't Labours fault. Bill Clinton and credit ratings.

I disagree.

Trouble with Labour is that its not what the MPs want that matters, its the members, hence the members vote someone in who the MPs then set about undermining. There will always be a left wing candidate or two amongst the short list. Labour, obviously, have been through this cycle before with Michael Foot etc, unelectable but true Labour. Its happening again as Labour think they lost the election by being too centreist. I think the real trouble is that between Michael Foot and Corbyn's time, Britain has evolved from an industrial country with declining competitiveness to a leading capitalist centre of financial expertise (amongst other skill sets) and an old Labour politician in charge of the country with finance as its main source of wealth and taxes is a misalignment of interests and not likely to happen. Labour will ultimately move back to the centre ground I'd imagine. Corbyn and McDonnell will be long gone. Both have a role to play and its interesting to see and hear their views but its an opportunity missed at the moment with the Tories making mistakes. And David Milliband .... eminently electable - if only Ed hadn't been such a backstabbing tw*t.

Yes - I meant eat in price.

I'd have thought 1.50 to be sort of ok to be honest. How much is toast? or a scone?

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote: > > On the other hand, female golfers have cut it in > the men's game. But I always thought that rather > undermined the women's tour. > They haven't really - it was a bit of a failed experiment and they tended to miss the cut more often than not. Hence they stopped doing it. I think it was a good idea to try it though.

If women can run marathons, they can play 5 sets. Some of the matches are quick 2 setters and don't deserve/need to go longer - but when its a close encounter it would be good to see the well matched players battle it out for longer - even if its only in the semi and the final. probably not needed in the earlier rounds.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can't believe Liverpool lost today, I checked the > score on 83 minutes and it was still 2-1, so I > thought to myself "hope we don't conceed and > equaliser". Couldn't believe it when I looked 15 > minutes later. > > And none of the other results went how I'd have > liked either. That match was a tribute to the influence of Victor Wanyama who came on at half time. Apparently Liverpool were controlling the midfield first half.

It was phrased as a question to nashoi. And I felt the way nashoi's post was phrased was intentionally challenging the credibility of the point being made, so you know....

Its each individual's decision - but I think people who are entitled should generally take it, if its not means tested then they should not have to make a decision whether they feel they need it or not - that's unfair pressure. It's important that the entitlement or otherwise is correctly set, monitored and enacted fairly so the right people get the right support. People may not realise it - but some people may be earning less through their disability without even realising it and the benefit is a partial compensation for that. Its hard to quantify how much has been lost as a result of the disability and the system puts some sort of a number on that, to assist.

Of is it the French - bumpers are for bumping

Black Hercules in the opener makes it 5 winners. nothing since. Thistlecrack and hedge on Cole Harden in the 3.30.

Brave man DaveR....

I agree - people with disabilities need to be properly looked after and I think their approach is very harsh. The thing about capital gains is that an increase in the capital gains tax rate does not always bring pro rata increases in capital gains taxes collected - likewise a decrease can attract investment and does not result in a pro rata decrease in taxes raised. Its about building a culture of investment to broaden the economy. Taxes collected and taxes utilised for benefits are of course related in terms of available money - but when viewing tax collection strategies in isolation the drop in capital gains tax is more logical and can be seen as one step back to take two forward in the longer term rather than necessarily a concession to the wealthy.

nashoi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe you didn't know about it is because it's > bullshit peddled by white supremacists in the US > partly in response to african american calls for > reparations. > https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/liam-h > ogan/%e2%80%98irish-slaves%e2%80%99-convenient-myt > h That seems to be a minority view. A lot of books seem to have been written about it in the context of slavery and at the same time I respect the rights of African Americans to their protection of their past neglect as by far the worst example. The point that something "similar" may have happened to another group does not reduce their suffering. But the point was posted in response to Maxxi's line "which must be a comfort to those suffering real racial abuse" - I believe Clarkson's attack constitutes a racial attack and anti Irish racism is embedded in the minds of some people and has been for centuries. In the context of Warren Gatland's rapid and complete apology for originally referring to Joe Marler's gypsy comments as "banter" there is clearly a move to stamp out this type of abuse and more especially any attempt by others to rationalise it. If you want to be part of that nashoi, then that's up to you.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 2.05 Southfield Theatre > > 3.20 Sprinter Sacre This is a post from last year. Loved Sprinter Sacre in the past and having just watched it win today on highlights, in amazing style I wish I had seen it today but was too busy at work.

Well, ok, if you are saying McLaren was on the Newcastle board then fair point - but Wenger is in a powerful board position.

Im going next month too. I have heard of a few places being referred to as East Dulwich on sea, but not Venice so far. :) I have only booked flights so far so hotel recomendations etc also welcome for me and the missus.

I don't think it's a good idea to have a coach who is also on the board of a club. The manager should be accountable to the board, not part of it. It creates a grey area on accountability. It's not working, his rewards are too great, his recent achievements too small and he needs independent scrutiny by a competitive board of directors.

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "A racial group means a group of persons defined > by reference to race, colour, nationality > (including citizenship) or ethnic or national > origins." > > so your man may have a case > > which must be a comfort to those suffering real > racial abuse With Saint Patrick's day coming up nippin' at our heels; here's an Irish/American history lesson.... Enjoy. The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves. Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white. From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland?s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain?s solution was to auction them off as well. During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers. Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They?ll come up with terms like ?Indentured Servants? to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle. As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts. African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master?s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude. In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new ?mulatto? slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed ?forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.? In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company. England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat. There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan?s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery. But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they?ve got it completely wrong. Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.

Any pub not showing the rugby is missing an massive opportunity, especially this Saturday imo. Although marketing themselves as the only pub not showing the rugby, might just work.

The 20% capital gains tax and the extension of entrepreneurs relief are welcome incentives to investment in this country. We need more investment not less. There are also encouragements for the young (under 40) to save. A lowering of corporation tax to encourage companies to set up here and prevent them going via Luxembourg etc will also help. Measures to make international companies pay more tax here, limit their interest deductibility etc are also welcome.

The Budget today so first bet was the 4pm. Won Diego at 8/1. Four winners in two days. Next up is New to the Town.

Best wishes foxy - hope all is ok.