Ladymuck

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You mean you ripped it open with the excitement of > exploring a new purchase lol. Yes, I've never owned a cool-bag before. (Do I sound sad? LOL)

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So basically some cheese and crackers and a bit of > fruit! :-$ Very abigail's party.... Well...erm...YES! Though they are not any old crackers...posh seasalt and rosemary, I'll have you know. ps: doesn't someone die at the end of that party - DJKQ?!!!!:))

katie1997 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > (Lady) Esme, don't mention it old bean. > > Would you like the chauffeur tomorrow if its going > to be rather inclement weather? Just say if so > (he'll be in Poundland) > > Toodle pip. How terribly kind of you Lady Katharina Van Der Wotsit. However, given your current plight (i.e. having left everything to the last minute) I think you'll find that your needs will be greater than mine. However, I much appreciate the thought. Toodle pip. Esme x PS: Mouse mat? Do you mean the famous wrist supports? They are under my bed ready for my next car boot fair! LOL

Lady Katharina Van Der Wotsit, I can see that you are going to have to get up very early tomorrow morning. Indeed, your time management skills leave a great deal to be desired. :)) I trust that both your chauffeur and butler will be on hand to assist you. *giggles*

Why didn't you tell me before? Fat lot of good telling me after the event(6)! I can't even return it as I have damaged the packaging...buggar!

Apologies for omitting your title dear Lady Katharina Van Der Wotsit. Just to say, I managed to buy a small (but nifty) little "cool bag" from Sainsburys today - so don't buy one just for your picnic. An absolute snip at ?1.99! Esme x

expat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They promised to keep the bus passes Thank you expat... ...wotta lying toad! (Cameron! not you...)

frierntastic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cue boring, predictable barrage of bile from DJKQ > and Brendan "you're a fascist etc etc" Do you not consider that the above comment might just be comprised of the very bile you claim puts you off so much? Do you not also consider it a tad antagonistic? I certainly do. Come on, there's enough room for all of us.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As for the bus pass....well the Coalition will be > gone in 4 years LM so it should be reinstated in > time for you :) Ahem...though, of course I've another 30+ years to go before I could reap the benefit at 60...ahem... > I wonder what the increase in income tax would > need to be to cut the deficit. Why can't 2p be put > on it. It's the simplest and fairest way to > collect tax after all. Why are sucessive > governemnts so scared of doing that? I'm no good re. figures DJKQ but I've been banging on about raising taxation for some time now. As you say, it is the simplest and fairest way of collecting extra revenue (that and tackling those tax-shy non-doms). It's one of the reasons I voted for the Greens. Unlike the other 3 main parties, they argued for progressive taxation.

Well, I was too lazy to make the home-made hoomus blah blah. So I shall instead be bringing, 3 cheeses, some posh crackers, some strawberries and, of course, some coiyderr. Oh, as we speak, this is what the weather looks like for tomorrow:. So, Katarina Van Der Wotsit, see you tomorrow along with the other 2 musketeers.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As someone who has supported them for the last 8 > years (not that I?d describe myself as a ?libdem? > but because I see then as the best option in a bad > bunch) I don?t feel let down. Seriously Brendan? You don't feel let down? (Not even a bit?). You are the first LD voter I have heard say that.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ladymuck Wrote: ------------------ > > The LDs have breached the trust of those who > > voted for them - big time. > I disagree LM. It's probably the party's own > fault, but people projected onto the LibDems what > they wanted to, without really understanding > where the party stood. Like all political > parties, the people involved often made statements > designed to attract voters which also muddied the > waters. There is probably an element of truth in what you say, but to suggest that the LDs haven't breached the trust of those who voted for them is a little disingenuous IMO. I did not vote for them, but if I had I would be pretty angry.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY, WE CAN'T AFFORD > IT...... I know, I know...there is no more money and all that, but I've been SO looking forward to my bus pass at 60.:( Why don't they tackle the non-doms and get them to pay a fairer share of tax, then perhaps we could keep our bus pass? Booo Hoooo. PS: there was no need to SHOUT! LOL!

Oh no! Just seen the news...they want to take the bus pass too! It's the only thing I've got to look forward to in my (poor) old age. BAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's not how taxation works. May as well ask how > the unemployed should pay for the NHS. Fair (albeit mildly facetious) comment Brendan. Doesn't alter the fact that the FT's question is an interesting one though.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Work? Instead of ripping out Ladymucks jugular? > Are you mad! :) he he Mine's made of elastic.:)) MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sure, the devil is always in the detail... The Financial Times also raises some interesting questions such as how will those that drop out of university be made to pay?

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In > fact, sometimes it gets to the point when I'd > actually rather do work instead. Oh that's not right at all!:))

BTW, I don't think it's right to say that this proposed tax is a tax on intelligence. Education and intelligence are two different things. Some of the brightest people I know left school at 16 without going on to further education. Conversely, there are those who have received the most privileged of education...

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >...in return I was told that > my "views are offensive". That kind of attitude > spoils it for everyone. Jeremy, you come across as an extremely erudite person to me. So it comes as a surprise that you did not choose to fight your corner in that particular instance. For what it's worth, whilst we are poles apart in terms of viewpoints and we rarely agree, I nevertheless find your input both challenging and valuable. Crikey, if I walked away every time someone said something I did not like, you'd be continually fishing me out of the Thames LOL!!!

Apologies for my flippant outburst above MitchK...but your seemingly mocking/sarcastic tone did genuinely cause me to laugh out loud. Anyway, with regard to your question on this proposed Graduate Tax. I agree with DJKQ's comment that anything which deters education is to be avoided. However, as Gordon Brown (I think it was him) once said, we are facing exceptionally difficult times. This means, like it or not, savings have to be made somewhere if this country is not to completely bankrupt itself. I would prefer to see neither tuition fees nor a graduate tax (now that would be good!). However, out of the two I would - if pushed - opt for the latter purely because I believe it to be fairer. The current system of tuition fees is inherently unfair, not least because - again (and apologies for using the same phrase) - it is a regressive measure in that it likely to affect those on the lowest incomes the most. As I understand the situation (and I am happy to be corrected on this) the proposed tax will mean that the amount paid by the individual will depend on the amount s/he eventually earns once employed.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Which is another way of saying you have neither > the ability or debating skills to argue your > points effectively. I don't think DaveR is saying that DJKQ, (a quick search on your previous posts will demonstrate to all with an ounce of brain just how skilled you are at debating issues of substance - some of which are far too complex for me BTW so I take my hat off to you). > Believe me I am never superficial. I care deeply > about what's going wrong in this country, the > rising gaps between rich and poor... And knowing you as I do DJKQ, I would confirm that. If having different opinions is now to be deemed superficial (which I don't think is the case), then I guess my arguments must be similarly superficial:-S. In any event, isn't the Drawing Room supposed to be about differing viewpoints and serious debate? If not, then perhaps Quids is right and all previous DR threads should be transferred to the Lounge. *thinks: FFS*

100 cosmic maaaaaaaaan (haven't heard that for a while)

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DJKQ is > superficially different but substantially the > same. Eh?

MitchK Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >...equality fans? Ooooh you are funny. LOL.