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As seen in the Dulwich Picture Gallery exhibition.

I don't think the agenda is hidden. The Mayor's (BJ) transport strategy is to get people walking and cycling more and the Council is obliged to have transport strategy that supports this. However in this instance, speaking as an experienced cyclist I agree there is no need for change. Whether the changes would encourage more people to walk and cycle, the cynic in me very much doubts.

I saw Billy Bragg (and many others) there years ago. Iconic venue. Must be saved. Petition signed.

Southwark are consulting on changes to the road layout around Bellenden Road, the intentions of which are (to quote Southwark) Promote Bellenden Road as the quieter route for cycling and walking in line with the Council?s adopted cycling strategy (Southwark Spine). Improve conditions for walking and access to green spaces. Improve safety at junctions for all road users. The consultation is open until 16th January 2016 should you wish to comment. https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/cyclingandwalkingimprovements/consult_view For what it's worth, I use this route as a cyclist most working days and although I can see that the proposed changes would make it better for cyclists I really don't think it's that bad at present and I think the changes unnecessary.

Usual rhetoric without evidence. However I am glad that Charles has highlighted the consultation on the changes to Bellenden Road / Holly Grove etc for which I will start a separate thread.

A second the mince pies from Blackbird. Small, light pastry with a crumble topping. Citrusy notes in the filling.

So Louisa - is this good or bad for Lordship Lane in your opinion ? If it turns out to be true then this would surely be the result of the gentrification you so often decry.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1609137

Note to self - ignore posts by BB in future.

http://williamrosebutchers.co.uk/?page_id=6

Probably one for the irrational rage thread but why has "ELO" been rebranded "Jeff Lynne's ELO" ?

Old houses eh ? Who'd have 'em. I'm no expert but (a) I suspect it's been there a while and (b) the plaster is unlikely to be providing much strength to the wall in general. The company that seems to get a number of mentions on this forum that you might like to contact for advice (perhaps send them the pictures) is Goddens. http://goddenstructural.com/

Cranberries ? Careful, your middle class roots are showing.

FoLo - get a life.

...and the relevance of an 18 month old anecdote is ???

We're already at war in Iraq.

Paula Radcliffe book on eBay and keep the change.

Here you go https://www.gumtree.com/p/caravans/buccaneer-gypsy-caravan/1140386129

Christmas Weaths AM - like the ones some people hang on their front door.

Nice little insight noted by Booth at the end of one of the walks: "At this point we were obliged to stop. Rain had fallen off and on all the morning and had now settled into a steady shower. PC Jones is a cheery fellow, whom even a drizzling rain cannot damp. He talks freely as we walk along. Today the conversation turned on the Drink question. He is not an abstainer; likes an occasional glass. He would like to see the public houses closed on Sunday, also the clubs. It would be no use to close the pubs without the clubs. The men would simply go to the clubs to drink. Now they go to the clubs in the morning and as soon as the public houses are open they are into them. He thinks that 19 out of 20 policemen would like Sunday closing. Prominent amongst the reasons is the fact that they would be able to have two days off a month instead of one as at present."

I found this archive recently and it contains images of Charles Booths handwritten notes whilst he walked the area gather the data for his poverty map of late Victorian London. In this example he walks a loop starting at Choumert Road, heads up to Denmark Hill, Red Post Hill, East Dulwich Grove, Goose Green and Adys Road. You can access other walks he did in the area using the drop-down in the top RHS of the screen. http://booth.lse.ac.uk/notebooks/b375/jpg/23.html The colours he refers to are his classification: BLACK: Lowest class. Vicious, semi-criminal. DARK BLUE: Very poor, casual. Chronic want. LIGHT BLUE: Poor. 18s. to 21s. a week for a moderate family PURPLE: Mixed. Some comfortable others poor PINK: Fairly comfortable. Good ordinary earnings. RED: Middle class. Well-to-do. YELLOW: Upper-middle and Upper classes. Wealthy.

What would happen if you had two part-time jobs of 3 days each ? Would that be worth 33.6 days holiday (i.e. 16.8 x 2) ?

Seriously ? Do you really imagine that the developers have spent what I cannot believe would be less than a couple of million quid on a building and all the associated development plans without having gone through the legal fine print? Good luck to you John but I think you just wasted ?3. In any event, the developers seem more than happy to maintain (and enhance) the passageway between Rye Lane and Bussey/Copeland and that passageway looks to be integral to the building, so I would suggest that it has always been there.

Surely all positive or all negative can't sum to zero ?

I find the "overhang" curious and think it a feature of the elevation drawing and the fact the building is not square. I really do not think there is any intention to build over the top of Khans. As regards the passage, I don't think it can be widened that much - proposed ground floor plans show the removal of the right hand wall (from Rye Lane) and presumably glass frontages into the ground floor units. Interesting to know the developers would retain access to Bussey/Copeland whilst the work is undertaken.