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?750k maybe but isn't the LTN funding part of central governments grant to local authorities, i.e. not funded by council tax ? Also looks like there is a threat to remove funding if schemes are removed. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1007807/active-travel-schemes-supported-by-government-funding.pdf

Hi James - regarding the Air Quality Report. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/77414/Air-Quality-modelling-report_June-2021_Dulwich-Streetspace.pdf Regardless of the argument over traffic levels, no real change to the levels of pollutants along East Dulwich Grove, Dulwich Village, Half Moon Lane, Village Way. Wasn't reducing pollution a key objective of the LTN implementation, so perhaps the measures don't go far enough ?

Thanks JohnL - I don't have a BT line so had to use the address version of the checker below and that, if it's picked up the correct cabinet, say that FTTC is available. Strange if true then that the ISP's aren't offering it. JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This article sort of explains the local FTTC > cabinet issue but its from 2016 > > https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2016/09/open > reach-bt-handles-full-capacity-fttc-broadband-cabi > nets.html > > According to recent information released by > Openreach to ISPs, at the time of writing some > 1,970 out of 77,033 live > cabinets were full to capacity and awaiting > upgrades (around 2.6%) > > This forum question sort of explains the issue too > and gives a link to test which if on entering your > postcode says "waiting list" for the VDSL entry - > your local cab is full > > https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/my- > local-cabinet-is-full/td-p/2117843 > > BT Link to test by postcode > > https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADS > L/AddressHome

Can you really say **insert shop name** are the best unless you tasted them all ? 🤢

Hi ianr - I have tried numerous sites (BT, Sky, Vodafone, Plusnet, John Lewis, Uswitch), most of which don't offer anything faster than 11-13mbps. Uswitch threw up Poptelecom who did offer fibre but they sound a little dodgy. My guess is that they all using the same database which may or may not be out of date. It may be possible to get something faster than 13mbps but because they don't think you will, their websites will not offer you any fibre-based packages. I'm not sure that I want to sign up for an ADSL package and then just hope that the actual speed is better. Also considering 5G from 3. I am supposed to get top quality 5G reception indoors where I am and its sold on a 14-day money back basis so could be worth a punt.

@Artemis - if my comments, in relation to Rockets and this thread, came across as a criticism that wasn't the intention. On the one hand I was simply interested to find out whether or not this thread was their only activist outlet. By all means keep asking questions and providing commentary but I'm not convinced that you will ever have an official, i.e. council-approved, response or engagement via a thread on the EDF. On the other hand regardless of who is presenting their argument or information, I prefer that we're provided with facts, as much as they can be verified by bunch of web forum users, and by stating that the council said they would behave in a particular way without being able to back it up is simply wrong. But hey, maybe I'm fussy.

OK - so (a) you've failed to provide any evidence that "that's not the democratic process they claimed they would follow at the outset of this." You run the risk of undermining your own integrity by presenting opinion as fact. (b) in a practical sense your efforts to change Southwark's stance on the LTN's are confined to posting on this thread. Glad that's clear. Merry Christmas everyone (anyone got a football ?)

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Per the Local Government Associations' guidelines > on consultations: > > Consultation is technically any activity that > gives local people a voice and an opportunity to > influence important decisions. It involves > listening to and learning from local people before > decisions are made or priorities are set. > > It would be that democratic process.......... Righto, and where did Southwark "claim they would follow this at the outset" ? Rockets - you have invested a huge amount of time to this thread and so it must be something that you're really passionate about. Can I ask what else you are doing to convince the council to remove the LTN's, or whatever your objective is because keeping this thread going seems to be achieving absolutely zilch in a practical sense ?

Rockets Wrote: > > They consulted, got a response they didn't want to > hear and then made the decision they wanted from > the beginning by ignoring the majority. That's why > so many people are upset with them - that's not > the democratic process they claimed they would > follow at the outset of this. > Which democratic process was that ? I don't ever recall the council saying here is a vote for or against the LTN's and we will abide by the result ?

Thanks Penguin68 - I understand the connection options from ADSL to FTTP and I'm aware that the Openreach exchange that fulfils most of ED is at the end of Court Lane (on the site of the old fire station, for those that are interested). I'm a bit surprised and disappointed that within a few hundred metres, some properties have FTTC and others ADSL, e.g. Arnham Way and Delft Way in the Dutch Estate a few metres apart but gigabits apart in terms of download speeds.

kerry2015 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not sure if the above is actually correct, my area > is listed as low teens but I get about 75 and I'm > on openreach. That's the problem. I might get a better speed and maybe the info on all the BB suppliers sites is out of date - I have checked several not just BT - but the package cost reflects the speed your supposed to get. I'd be happy to pay for fibre but according to the information available, it's not possible at the moment.

Like many I'm currently with Virgin Media for my broadband. I'm considering switching to an another provider that will use the Openreach network and I was surprised and pretty disappointed to see the speeds on offer for my street so I decided to see what other streets were like. it seems that I'm in blackhole of ADSL speeds of up 11-13Mbps whereas there are several streets on a few hundred metres away that have fibre available and speeds to to 70+Mbps. If these numbers are true then it looks like I'll be staying with VM if I need a reasonable speed. (Sorry - can't layout the below as a table) Numbers are min/max Mbps speeds quoted. Townley Road, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8SR 20 36 Fibre Kempis Way, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TU 35 73 Fibre Isel Way, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TT 35 73 Fibre Arnhem Way, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TS 35 73 Fibre Deventer Crescent, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TJ 5 13 Velde Way, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TP 4 12 Delft Way, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TR? 4 9 Nimegen Way, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8TL 7 16 Thorncombe Road, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8PX 5 11 Glengarry Road, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8QA 5 13 Tarbert Road, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8QB 5 13 Trossachs Road, London, SE22 8PY 5 11 Glengarry Road, London, SE22 8PZ 5 11 East Dulwich Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8PU 5 13 East Dulwich Grove, London, SE22 8TW 5 13 East Dulwich Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8PP 35 73 Fibre Melbourne Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8QY 35 50 Fibre Ashbourne Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8RN 35 73 Fibre Chesterfield Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8RW 35 73 Fibre Tell Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8RH 35 73 Fibre Tintagel Crescent, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8HT 35 73 Fibre Elsie Road, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8DX 35 70 Fibre Derwent Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8EA 35 50 Fibre Melbourne Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8QZ 35 50 Fibre Matham Grove, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8PN 35 73 Fibre Playfield Crescent, East Dulwich, London, SE22 8QR 20 36 Fibre Postcodes here: https://checkmypostcode.uk/map/use/?loc=18,51.45658413434781,-0.08243501186370851 Speeds available here: https://www.bt.com/products/broadband/deals

I think that fact that he was on a bike is largely irrelevant, I suspect he would behave the same regardless of the mode of transport, from your description he just sounds like a very nasty person.

Just a note on Charter East Dulwich. The number of pupils attending has increased over the past few years. I think in September 2019 the original cohort were entering year 10 and the 6th form (year 12) only opened in September this year. This would partly explain any observed increases in numbers walking to that school.

CPR Dave Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seems like you are saying that the traffic in > Lordship Lane has gone up (by more than 20% of the > traffic that was in EDG) to accomdate the closed > roads Rah rah? I guess that depends on the direction and destination. If you were heading east and intended to head south along LL then I guess that previously you might have headed down Melbourne/Ashbourne/Chesterfield/Blackwater etc but ultimately you'd still be on LL so no net increase if you measured say around the Lordship pub but there would be an increase if you measured around the Palmerston. If you were heading east and intended to head towards Grove Vale then yes that would be an increase in the section from the EDG/LL junction to the roundabout.

Another snippet from the Air Quality Report. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/77414/Air-Quality-modelling-report_June-2021_Dulwich-Streetspace.pdf Regardless of the argument over traffic levels, no real change to the levels of pollutants along East Dulwich Grove, Dulwich Village, Half Moon Lane, Village Way.

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > She is a bit busy being the WHO advocate for > health and air quality at present, but yes we are > in communication due to some shared experiences > already. > > Southwark closed the 5 roads around ED Grove and > they have a duty of care to their residents to > measure the air quality consequences and to > publish these before any consultation. As it > stands a group of EDG residents have measured the > air quality by self-funding, but these > measurements are not 'official' measurement. So > the 59-60 NOx figures (WHO - anything over 40 is a > risk to health) are easily dismissed. > What you need to ask yourself is 'why isn't > Southwark measuring our air quality' ? Maybe take a look at my earlier post. /forum/read.php?5,2092625,2250739#msg-2250739 I've read further into the report actually Southwark has measured the air quality on EDG using AQMesh pods - see page 15. The report states: Southwark Council provided hourly average measurements from AQMesh pods on East Dulwich Grove from 18th May to 19th June 2017 and from 18th May to 24th July 2021. Comparing the same periods in 2017 and 2021 shows average NO2 concentrations were 33 μg/m? in 2017 and 23 μg/m? in 2021. For these periods, the maximum hourly average concentrations were 67 μg/m? and 52 μg/m?, in 2017 and 2021 respectively; over the two-month period in 2021, the maximum hourly average concentration was 56 μg/m?. The change in concentrations at this AQMesh pod location is in line with continuous monitor and diffusion tube measurements.

Anyone looked at the Air Quality Assessment - it's quite a dense document. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/77414/Air-Quality-modelling-report_June-2021_Dulwich-Streetspace.pdf A couple of interesting observations. Firstly one of a means of monitoring air quality is using diffusion tubes (apparently). While some are located in the local area (map is on page 14) none are located on East Dulwich Grove at all. The closest is one on Townley Road near Allyens. Page 31 talks about pollutant levels around the local schools. Comparing 2019 with 2021 the reports conclusion is: "Using the EPUK IAQM significance criteria matrix reproduced in Table 4.1, the impact of the scheme at all school locations, for all pollutants, is classed as Negligible." This is repeated in the conclusion along with the overall assessment: "Using the EPUK IAQM significance criteria, the predicted changes in concentrations at school locations in the scheme area are classed as Negligible. In addition, for the majority of building fa?ade locations along scheme roads the predicted changes in concentrations are classed as Negligible." One the StreetSpace objectives ( https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/improving-our-streets/live-projects/dulwich-review?chapter=2 ) is "Improving air quality and reduce pollution and noise levels" . The report would indicate that the scheme has failed on the first two points so far.

I'm going to watch QPR v Swansea next weekend and it falls under the new requirements to show a vaccine pass (which I have) or a negative LFT. I received an email saying "The club will accept any form of proving a negative lateral flow test such as the physical test, photo of a recent test, or a screenshot of the recorded result which has been uploaded to the NHS." Surely the photo of a negative test is ridiculous - here's one https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/mass-testing-covid-19/ Interested to know if others attending outdoor events have received similar.

legalalien Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > interesting recent review of literature here > https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/27/5/490 > > Injuries mostly falling off type injuries rather > than collisions with other road users. > Significant cost/ burden on A&E/ health > services.... Hmm - For those that can't be bothered, don't assume that because it's a BMJ article it's discussing scooter accidents in the UK. It's not. Also that's your "significant" not the BMJ's. The NHS budget is what, ~?170bn so what do you term significant ?

Whilst not forgetting of course that a consultation is not a yes-or-no vote, Hackney are making an LTN permanent against the views of the majority of the local population. https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/homerton-ltn-to-be-made-permanent-2021-8537300

Brideshead Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > The library don?t have a true ?e-edition? which is > exact copy of what is printed, hence the reason > why you pay at least as much for this type of > version online. > Are you sure ? Southwark subscribe to Pressreader which allows you to read the printed version of most newspapers. Not all are supported but when I last looked they had the mail, mirror, express, telegraph, guardian, including weekend and sunday editions and the associated supplements and magazines. https://imgur.com/a/C33foRr

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You should have advertised your glazed clay > self-portrait straight here, on the EDF ! Darn - that would have allowed me to ask at least 4 x more :) artisan..hand-crafted..original..

only ?8.99 !!! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234291138638?hash=item368cd7104e:g:EGgAAOSwYYlgWgue

Dalgleish on Channel 5 - kind of went under the radar of the media I think. Three two-parters that have finished now but you can probably catch up. Set in the early seventies and starring Bertie Carvell with great sideburns and an E-Type. Not what I was expecting of Channel 5 at all really.