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Well I did murder fruit de mer not to long ago Hopefully the crossing back from Cherbourg will not be murder

panama Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There are some stupid people on this forum "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." Not my quote, not clever enough, Plato.

panama Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I personally would like to see Capital Punishment > reintroduced as there is no significant detterant > avaliabile now that might stop someone commiting > murder, and i don't want to see my taxes go > towards keeping these people alive and in jail. > Before all the cry babies start i will state some > facts. > Britain effectively abolished capital punishment > in 1965, the rate of murders in 1964 were 0.68 per > 100,00 of the population now they are about 1.42 > per 100,000 of the population a more than double > rise. > Home office figures show unlawfull killings were > 300 in 1964, 833 in 2004 and 734 in 2007. > Statistics kept by the Home office for the 5 year > period between 1964 and 1969 show a 125% rise in > murders that would have attracted a death > sentance. > Okay. > Goverment analysis of the criminal situation > between 1900 and the outbreak of the Second World > War in 1939 points to the death penalty being a > detterant to commiting criminal murders but not > domestic murders,a criminal thinking of a planned > robbery would think and plan ahead to avoid the > consequences of murder, where as in domestic > murder it would usually be non planned and happen > in the heat of the moment. > The most compelling argument against capital > punishment is of course the fact that innocent > people may be executed, however i think execution > would be appropiate when the evidence against the > individual is so compelling and compact that there > is no chance the accused is actually innocent and > with the use of dna now days it would be certainly > easier to prove innocence or guilt. > A 2005 survey(not to sure who they are) found that > out of 1118 respondants 2/3 of thenm wanted the > death penatly brought back, unfortunately due to > our membership of the Eu and our commitment to the > European Convention on Human Rights we are held > back by those other people so politically it would > be hard to reintroduce. > All the money wasted on keeping people inside for > murders could be used for other more important > social projects,sadly its seems that we will have > to accept the high level of crimes and murders > till a time arises when the people have had enough > and force the goverment to implement the changes. What is the penalty for murdering the English language?

Certainly an issue that has been done to death... Ps, it is never going to be reintroduced.

Go with what you instinctively feel to be right In is amazing how often going with the 'gut feeling' is best I sincerely hope it all works out you

Go with what you instinctively feel to be right In is amazing how often going with the 'gut feeling' is best I sincerely hope it all works out you

SteveT Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The guys in uniform often reject government issue > and buy better quality with their own cash, and > they are not well paid. > > Not many people know that. I don't know, I left 5 years ago and was very well paid, especially so in theatre... SA80 is a good weapon, not a great one as a preference I would have the German H&K G36. The AK is good and luckily the choice of the insurgents, where you are generally safe if standing in front of them. They tend to pop off rounds at an alarming rate and after the 4th it becomes an anti aircraft weapon.

SteveT Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The guys in uniform often reject government issue > and buy better quality with their own cash, and > they are not well paid. > > Not many people know that. I don't know, I left 5 years ago and was very well paid, especially so in theatre... SA80 is a good weapon, not a great one as a preference I would have the German H&K G36. The AK is good and luckily the choice of the insurgents, where you are generally safe if standing in front of them. They tend to pop off rounds at an alarming rate and after the 4th it becomes an anti aircraft weapon.

Paying it forward is not a good way to go through life.

She got even better looking as she matured

Try butter courgettes, they are delicious

The Chef with tourettes syndrome!!

51 last Halloween..... But getting back into the gym this last 15 months has taken 15 years off me... Whether that is a debit or credit I have yet to discover!

KateW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > iaineasy wrote: > > And why are we forced to give in aid of the > soldiers in this conflict when it seems to be of > no benefit to us for them to be there? > > We aren't forced to give aid for the soldiers; the > poster campaign is completely about voluntary > giving. And I echo what brum says - it's the > politicians that put our soldiers in Iraq and > Afghanistan and if you want to vent, vent your > frustrations at them rather than the men and women > who are sent out to war without proper equipment. > It makes me sick to think that MP's have claimed > millions on expenses and yet they are quite happy > to send our soldiers out to fight in wars which > have dubious motives, yet they consistently slash > the defence budget, meaning our soldiers don't > have the necessary equipment to do their jobs. I > speak with a husband in the army who has done > tours in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnia etc etc > and a brother-in-law who is in Afghanistan at the > moment. > > Warfare is different to what it was in WW1 yet it > doesn't mean that the sacrifices made by soldiers > today are any less worthy of our rememberance. Nicely put!

bignumber5 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > i thought it was good. It read as a tribute. > > I also think people should be less critical of > > other peoples posts. > > There are too many people trying to show > > themselves as superior in dismissing other > peoples > > opinions often in a rather nasty way. > > > I wasn't attempting to be dismissing, but a > descriptive narrative that actually rather > romanticises the situation like it's scene from a > film, is jam-packed with cliches and apparently > with no personal attachment does not, to my mind, > add anything. That's not attempting to be nasty, I > just don't see the point. Comp.shorty even put in > the disclaimer that it might offend someone - the > piece doesn't offend me, but I think to pen prose > over the death of someone that you never met in a > place that you were not, and to even give a > message from him to his mother from beyond the > grave, is rather tasteless. And adds nothing. > Never was much of a poet, though, so perhaps I'm > missing the point. Well, perhaps, you could consider it posted by me...as I have been there (twice), have known hundreds of young men like him and most all soldiers leave letters to their loved ones just in case....including me.

How about some of the great BBC Talking Book CD's? All the classics.... Include some Dickins, perhaps as a flavour of Victorian London.

Isn't our Vera back in fashion How about We'll Meet Again or There'll Always Be An England Quintessentially English

Probably the greatest general of the Second World War was William Slim. His Forgotten 14th Army was at the tail end of the supply chain in every respect, they even considered making parachutes from plaiting leaves to airdrop supplies to the Chindits. His situation reminds me ( somewhat tongue in cheek) of modern day events. But his words when London asked him to, once more mount an major operation with wholely inadequate resources, I think sum up the British military mentality. He replied to London, 'The impossible I can achieve in a few days, however miracles might take me a week longer'. I ought to add in the spirit of the thread title, whilst Bruin is no friend to the military, I abhor the Sun's preying on a grief filled mother to score points, it is truely the gutter press.

Brendan Remembrance Day at the Cenotaph is the State paying homage to those who fell in service of the Nation. It is also fellow service personnel recalling those less fortunate than ourselves in full public glare, because we have a kinship with them. How individuals decide to pay their respects is a matter of personal choice, whether it is to buy a poppy or make a donation to the Cheshire Foundation, or even not to agree to contribute at all. All that really matters is, if you choose to remember, that the right to make that choice was hard bought. The armed forces are a family, but we are part of a greater family which is society in general. We live in garrison towns and interact with the public almost everyday when at home base. Our children attend local schools and we shop in the same supermarkets. We are not a breed apart, we are you.

For most people, war is viewed through the medium of a television screen or a reporters account of fighting in some distant parts of the world. Those of us brought up during peacetime, all wars seem far removed from our daily lives. Often we take for granted our values and institutions, our freedom to participate in cultural and political events, and our right to live under a government of our choice. Those Old Contemptibles of 1914 or the BEF of 1939 went off to war in the belief that the values and beliefs enjoyed by the British were being threatened. Those who experienced the blood and carnage of battle believed that their efforts had made the world a safer place. For those who lived through these wars, remembering means thinking of brothers in arms. It evokes memories of men and women who never returned home. Those born after the wars might picture the youthful soldiers who eagerly joined up from schools, businesses and farms across the country, only to meet death while fighting against the enemy. They may imagine the anguish of a man leaving a new wife, a young family, an elderly mother. The important thing for all of us to remember is that they fought to preserve a way of life, values, and the freedom we enjoy today and often take for granted. Remembrance is the silence to honour their sacrifice and memory. What do we remember, in the main, very ordinary men asked to perform extraordinary deeds. Not everyone is awarded a medal, most deeds of heroism go overlooked, the passing of two minutes in silent contemplation honours these uncelebrated heroes. One day every year, we pay special homage to those who died in service to their country. We remember these brave men and women for their courage and their devotion to ideals. We wear poppies, attend ceremonies, and visit memorials. For one brief moment of our life, we remember why we must work for peace every day of the year. My brother was on parade in Whitehall last Sunday, he is a 22 year veteran of the Royal Marines and returned in June from 14 months in AFG, 6 months on tour and a voluntary extension to mentor ANA soldiers. He was humbled by the warmth of those who attended the ceremony and he stood in awe of those on the march past who had endured so much. We have each seen the supreme cruelty man can perpetrate on their fellow man,in Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, Sierra Leone and Afghanistan. But, we have both been touched by the enduring spirit of humanity we have witnessed in places where you would not believe it could possibly exist. The onus is on all of us to carry the message, to ensure our children and future generations realise that freedom is not free and that the price has been paid by those strangers who gave their all so that we have the right to choose, the right to speak, and perhaps even the right to forget. War is obscene, it should be resisted at all costs as a solution to political failings. The vast majority of soldiers I have ever served with feel the same.

Unless this is the Nth time it has happened, I go with giving the benefit of the doubt... If subsequent actions prove her to be perpetuating the lie, then I think you have the answer to the strength of the friendship.

I have not been around long enough to miss either of them reallly.... On the question of racism, I have just returned from the US...the epithet "racist" (like "homophobe" and the ever popular "bigot" etc.) are thrown around willy nilly at the first hint of any thought contrary to the progressive playbook. It conveniently diverts the discussion and avoids the need to actually address the issues in a substantive way. As a consequence, they and we have numerous "elephants in the room" in that common sense tells most of us there are various problems needing intelligent, unemotional discussion and solutions but no one will bring them up for fear of being labeled a racist. I can identify somewhat with the description given by daizie, I went from a boarding school to Tulse Hill and there were numerous incidents of black on white violence....but I would characterise that more as the strong picking on the weak, as white pupils picked on asians and whites picked on whites and whites picked on black students.

RIP to all the fallen and those injured by war. It was a tad dusty in my house this morning!

vinceayre Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What war, we aren't at war. I have some nicely shredded CBA which would prove you wrong....I get the irony btw!

louisiana Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Higher education has some parallels with tourism: > if it becomes a mass thing, everyone goes, then > that alters the goalposts for everyone. > > When everyone goes to the beach etc., it's just > not the same (crowded, noisy, crowded skies, > flight delays...), and when everyone goes to > university, the experience is devalued > (no/fewer/lower grants, class overcrowding, > teaching by postgrad students, and little or no > income differential when you come out as everyone > else has a degree too). I agree, we are definitely dumbing down. My daughter chose her course to give best experience as well as academic qualification, it is a four year course with the third year studying at Milan University, she has good Italian and hopefully she will gain total fluency as the bonus!