Roll Deep

[HAL9000]

Moos - I was using sarcasm to suggest that that is how it might appear to an observer beyond the inner circle.

[Narnia]

Only MP can answer that in this case.

[Ladymuck]

???? Wrote:

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> Lady Muck "2025"

*bursts out laughing*

All right clever clogs...but I bet you simply just clicked onto Ladymuck - right? Just as I have just clicked onto ???? and spied 6179. Or is there another way? Or do moderators receive a special signal (or something) which provides additional information about a user? I am curious...very curious.

[Ladymuck]

Declan Wrote:

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> Only MP can answer that in this case.

So it seems. Alas, he hasn't yet.

*adopts pleading look in the direction of Mockney Piers*

[Narnia]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> Honestly; he was just trying to do a pun. It came

> out wrong.

> Don't worry, if you ever want someone to be there

> for you, someone you trust and love it's probably

> not him (but when push comes to shove I reckon it

> is), but you know, I @#$%& love him like a brother

> anyway.

>

> Put it this way...I vouch for him, whatever that's

> worth.

Why was the thread removed MP? I presume you know it's content was nothing like a pun whatever way you looked at it.

[????]

I don't think moderators are judges that's just Admin so the point about judgement is wrong. I think the moderators on here do a good job at impartial moderation and if we didn't get their opinions (or moderation) it'd be a far poorer place.

[Moos]

Fuck this bullshit. I'm off. I don't know why I thought I could come back.

[????]

Hal - rather than saying about how it 'might appear' etc etc...why don't you just have the balls to come out and say what it appears to me you clearly think? Or is this after all just a philosophical stroll around the principles of moderation?

[Mark]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Or do moderators receive a

> special signal (or something) which provides

> additional information about a user? I am

> curious...very curious.

Moderators have an implant in their skull that allows them to see every user's number of posts. In reality they just click on someone name like those in the outer circle.

HAL, you're painting the forum as if it's a courtroom ... judge this, found guilty that, counsel for the defence etc, etc. I'd like to reassure you it's not, so relax, take off your wig and gown, put your speedos on and dive it, the water's great.

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[Bluerevolution]

all forums are full of cyber warriors, WUMs, multi character, multi views and multi user-names- this is a small forum and relatively easy to work this out. I'm on a forum of over 3 thousand people and even there you can spot the characteristics. Funny thing is when you meet these WUMs they are really placid and meek

[Moos]

I've met HAL in person, and he's not meek, but he seems perfectly pleasant.

I do think he has an issue with the forum moderation, and would like to understand why.

[Mark]

What's a WUM?

ps this forum's got 13,244 registered users and yesterday there were 2,897 unique visitors. Not that I get touchy when people say it's "small" or anything.

[????]

Well it is and it isn't Bluer, I think the fact that it's based on a real geographical community rather than a community of interest makes it a bit different....for instance, at a very quick scroll I've actually met all but 3 posters (that 3 includes your good self) on this thread.

[HAL9000]

I'm sure everyone can see through the metaphors - and I don't have a hidden agenda here. Moderators take on a certain responsibility for which the majority and I are grateful.

I do not think it is right for them to act as apologists for miscreants who happen to be their personal friends - if they wish to perform such a function their generosity of spirit should be extended to everyone.

In other words, I don't think it's fair to try and have it both ways.

[Ladymuck]

Mark Wrote:

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> What's a WUM?

A wind up merchant?

Bye the way...I was asking a serious question...earlier

[Moos]

My view is that moderators should moderate impartially but should be allowed to opine - after all they too are members of the forum community and it seems a little unfair to expect them not to express their views. It's not an easy balance, though, and not always done correctly.

In this instance, CrystalClear's thread was pulled, so Mockney's friendship for him didn't stop the appropriate action being taken.

It would be underhand of me not to out myself following that comment

[????]

Well surely if they are allowed opinions - including making excuses for friends - unless it interferes with their moderation or the rules of the forum then there is no issue that I can see. If you don't think they should be allowed to post opinions as ordinary posters then I don't think we'd get many moderators. So.

1) Should moderators be allowed their own opinions?

If yes, 2) should these should surely be uncensored as long as they are within the rules of the forum.

Moderating to help 'miscreants' no, however defending or apologising for friends has no contradiction with the roll of moderation as far as I can see.

[RosieH]

What Moos said. A lot.

Now please can we let this tedious "inner circle" bullshit drop? There are plenty of circles on here, and they don't all involve moderators by quite a long chalk. There's a Conspiracy Theories thread in the Lounge I think, if people would care to indulge.

Edited to agree with Quids, who is altogether more rational and less exasperated than me.

[rosa_klebb]

Right, before this really gets out of hand.

O.K, hands up, I'm the masterm.....er, sorry, trouble-maker behind bigbadwolf, The Eye, Roll Deep and all his merry band of malcontents you're yet to meet.

The moderators who are responsible for the day to day running of this forum - of which there are about half a dozen - are a pretty fair bunch who I'm told have to put up with a lot of stick to aid the smooth running of a forum that offers so much for so little. Basically, it's free and doesn't pay those who volunteer to hold onto the keys whilst the owner is otherwise occupied i.e - making a living, if you can imagine such a thing.

Basically, I don't have a problem with them and generally see it as a great deal of fun trying to sneak about under their noses, but in truth they're probably aware of who I am once I start arsing about. Something I enjoy.

The needless accusations of them being in some sort of coven - which to a certain extent they are - is quite misleading. They all simply have a common goal. Running a message board we all, even if at times excluded, enjoy reading. Have you seen some of the forums out there that have scant moderation? They're a mess poluted with unregulated halfwits who can barely read and write.

That's all. Right, Admin. Get the sack and pistol out, again.

ttfn.

[HAL9000]

I've no problem with moderators expressing their personal opinions - my point is about one in particular acting as an apologist for personal friends. mockney's excuses for Crystalclear's post in particular - it was inexcusable and rightly pulled. OK, forgive and forget - let's move on. But for a mod to say it's OK because he's my best friend - come on folks!

[Mark]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Bye the way...I was asking a serious

> question...earlier

I know and the only way people, including moderators, know how many posts someone has made is by clicking their name. There's nothing sinister going on.

HAL, I honestly couldn't see through your metaphors, I thought you were serious.

[HAL9000]

It looks like you;re not alone - some folks actually think I was being serious about the "inner circle" bit too!

[Mark]

rosa_klebb, hang around but keep your nose clean, don't post about shagging and w_anking because it annoys Admin. And he thinks rosa_klebb makes you sound like a girl which is funny, I can even hear him laughing about it from behind his Gatling gun on watch tower 6.

[????]

but does it mean I have to go and apologise to Huff'n'tumble?

[Huff 'N' Tumble]

Apology accepted.