The Uplands to become....(Lounged)

[mothernature]

Villager is a great name for THE UPLANDS.

All the Cottagers (PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN COTTAGES) from the village can go to eat and drink.

And people with dogs (DOGERS) from the village can go as well.

Who else would I meet in the Villager?

MN

[SimonM]

I think perhaps there was a missed opportunity here. I mean, if you already have a pub called "The Bishop" then its companion establishment might reasonably be called "The Actress" no? especially in a place as popular with great thesps of our time as ED....

I used to live near the Forester's, as it was then called, and liked to persuade myself it was named after the local writer who gave us Hornblower and the African Queen....I longed for a pub whose sign depicted a leech-covered Bogart towing that boat, assisted by Kate Hepburn....

Now I want a companion to the "Florence" called the "Ermintrude" or the "Dougal"....

All this is probably why I am an armchair pundit of mediocre wit rather than a pub magnate.....:)

[stingray]

wouldn't say mediocre. more like half?

Sister pub to the Florence would have to be "The Machine?"

[ryedalema]

I thought it was a chess piece thing - The Bishop, The Castle? If so, The Queen, or indeed The Pawn would be good names and have the same feel as the Villager.

[SteveT]

It might be more apt to call it 'The Disaster'

given that six pubs per day are closing down according to the news on R4.

[Sue]

SimonM Wrote:

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> if you already have a pub called

> "The Bishop" then its companion establishment

> might reasonably be called "The Actress"

xxxxx

:))

[Jake L]

i completely agree. The Villager sounds cringeworthy.

Worse, Scott, it sounds artificial and possibly even cynical, which i know isn't your intention.

Have you researched the site and found out what the pub was called years ago? (or was it the Uplands?)

[jimbo1964]

What's wrong with The Uplands as a name? It doesn't really matter if it changes it's personality. Pubs do this all the time.

[hoser]

I'd be much more likely to go if it were called the Village Idiot, or the Village of the Damned.

I'm serious.

[Bartoche]

Well, I think we shouldn't be too narrow minded here!

If it has been The Uplands for the last 50 years (and with a great reputation), I am sure Scott knows that it would be damn stupid to change it. If it has been named like this for less than 10 years (and it's one off 1000 other different names it might have had!) & with an infamous pedigree then it makes sense to wipe the slate clean & from a marketing point of view make sure that everybody knows it's a new beginning.

Not keen on The Villager, but what do I know in marketing & graphic design? Not a pork scratching..!

Anyway Scott you know you won't please everyone, but try to go for the majority!!!!

Good luck & can't wait to see the new premises.

Bartoche.

PS: what about The Upland Village!!!?

[scott]

Amusingly, Hoser, my mates have L.A.'s first 'Gastro Pub', called 'The Village Idiot'(www.http://www.villageidiotla.com/). They spent a long week The Bishop, researching & developing.

Cheers for your comforting viewpoint SteveT, however what the press continually fail to report is The number of 'new build' Bars, Restaurants and Pubs that are opening. That along with the fact that the one thing nearly all the closing pubs have in common is that they haven't changed their offering for at least 3 years.

Can't continue the chess theme as I sold The Castle years ago and don't wish to be associated with it in it's current guise.

I like The Actress...

[DonGee]

Domitianus Wrote:

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> What Jah Lush and Keef said. The name is sightly

> distinctive and gives a sense of cntinuiy even

> with an upgrade. If people know it is the Uplands

> they will go to see what has been made of it. The

> Vllage sounds naff and for ages people will be

> really pissed off having to add "You know....the

> place that used to be The Uplands."

What they all said!! Keep it as the Uplands

[Jake L]

Or take the other road it's on and called it The North Cross. sounds old and new at the same time, to my mind.

Or, much better, use the OTHER road it's by and call it the Crystal Palace. Or even the Crystal Palace Tavern. and you could have a quiz on Wednesdays. I know someone who might be free... Here's a link:

Crystal Palace pub quiz

[Sue]

I vote for The Actress :))

[TJ]

well, political it may be, but also historical. (Lord) Palmerston was the prime minister around the time East dulwich was formed, and considering that the palmerston is at one end of the road, and the Uplands the other, surely the real man's great opponent should be the opposite number:

The Gladstone

??

[Penguin68]

Gladstone and Palmerston did fall out, but at the time Gladstone was Palmerston's Chancellor of the Exchequor (think Blair & Brown). (Palmerston had served in both Tory & Whig governments) Lord John Russell was asked by Queen Victoria (good name for a pub?) to dismiss Palmerston earlier, but was told that he was too popular ('we don't want to fight, but by Jingo if we do') celebrated his (popular, for a time) foreign policy. Gladstone was a bit of a wowser, anyway (apart from his curious attempts to 'save' fallen women) - a better political choice would surely be Disraeli - rather a convivial chap by all accounts. 'I'm off to the Disraeli for a tincture' has a ring to it.

[Sue]

Am I imagining it, or was there not at one time a pub called the Gladstone round here?

[HonaloochieB]

I think I'd prefer it to remain The Uplands, if it has to change, then call it the P.G. Wodehouse.

The 'selected' Sky Sports games, don't make me chuckle sir, my lips are chapped.

As one of the few pubs around that has resisted Murdoching and the subsequent influx of bastard`idiots every time there's some sort of sporting challenge going on, I find it something of a haven.

Apologies if my language is intemperate, and I can asssure you some of my best friends are bastard idiots.

[ryedalema]

Scott - I wondered what you meant about The Castle. I used to go there lots when I worked at the Council (boy did I need it!) and used to think it was good (esp. the fish finger sandwiches). I went past this afternoon and it definitely looks the worse for wear ;-(

Looking forward to the Actress's debut?!

[Penguin68]

then call it the P.G. Wodehouse.

Raymond Chandler also went to Dulwich College - so how about The Long Goodbye - C S Forester also lived in Underhill Road, so how about The Admiral Hornblower?

[Sue]

Sue Wrote:

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> Am I imagining it, or was there not at one time a

> pub called the Gladstone round here?

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Oh no, ooops, senility strikes again, it was in Sarf Norwood in the eighties :-$

I think it was the one in Portland Road where it was an event if one of the regulars moved slightly :))

[Keef]

Jake L Wrote:

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> Or take the other road it's on and called it The

> North Cross. sounds old and new at the same time,

> to my mind.

Of all the suggestions on here, I think "The North Cross" is pretty good.

However, I still say keep The Uplands, which as far as I know, has always been the name.

[Brendan]

If it is going to change name surely the obviously choices are the North Cross Tavern or the Uplands Road Tavern. That way we will have another TLA to go with the CPT, EDT and FHT.

I think NCT works better than URT.

[Keef]

Please don't let it be the NCT, it will be overrun by confused people with newborns!

[TJ]

The irony of a pub called the NCT in East Dulwich is an opportunity that is too good to miss!