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ratty I know what you are getting at, but lets not go there on this forum because it may well end up with you being strung up and put in some stocks on Goose Green, with yummies and arty types throwing 'slightly past it's sell by date' organic tomatoes and bananas at you!

I was just trying to determine if the lack of accent was of a south london variety, or perhaps a north herts slightly yokel no type, or perhaps the of the accentless hooray henry ilk, or the absence of accent to be found in the thames estuary, or perhaps that famous west country no accent, or maybe a missing accent possessed of canadians or welsh speaking patagonians.

You know, just to see what you're getting at.

ratty Wrote:

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> The Canning and the Phoenix are better pubs than

> all the East Dulwich ones put together imo. A pub

> should be a pub, not a place of meeting for people

> with overloud no accent voices!

>

> EDT is part way there!


Quite, a pub should never be a meeting place for friends, anything other than a barely audible grunt to your fellow drinkers is breaking basic protocol. They must be preserved as sacred ground for heavy drinking, and just heavy drinking, or they will lose all character. I'm actually writing to the National Trust and trying to get The Silver Buckle listed as a national treasure.

I prefer the the kind of pub where..


...old men wait silently for death

...the only wine available is Black Tower (and you're a puff if you order it anyway)

...bespattered plasterers leer at the occasional female visitor

...stolen goods are offered every time you go for a piss

...fleeting eye contact may lead to a sound beating


What does everyone else think?

You certainly wont find working class people visiting half of these expensive crappy little bars along LL, for a whole host of reasons. Whether this person means that a particular accent is associated with certain people(classic example being a night out in the Crown and Greyhound old chap) is another matter.



I think it is a shame that regional accents are dying. The blandness of the newcomers into ED can be summed up by the dreary middle of the road accent. I dont know where they get it from, probably 3 years of uni does the trick!

Louisa Wrote:


>

> I think it is a shame that regional accents are

> dying. The blandness of the newcomers into ED can

> be summed up by the dreary middle of the road

> accent. I dont know where they get it from,

> probably 3 years of uni does the trick!


Is there any subject Louisa that you can't turn into a rant about middle class, middle of the road, not like it used to be skewed view of real life?


How about the following:


Cooking: B***** Jamie Oliver - ruining the idea of perfectly good school dinners - gristel and lumpy gravy ain't wot it used to be.


Reading: We didn't need to read in my day - only had time to work, sleep and drink beer watered down by unscrupulous landlords (state lackeys)


Walking: We used to walk to work - now the middle calss have taken over this perfect working class habit as a fitness kick to get rid of the obese figures created by their over indulgence in middle class habits.


Peckham Rye Park: Used to be so much better when vandals were allowed to roam and dogs could c*** where they liked.


And so on.


Personally I prefer to test a person by their mind and their thinking, not their accent. Narrow minds - not worth talking to. Open minds - let's have fun discussing the world, the universe and digital watches (and pubs to keep this rant on topic).

*Bob* - you are such a card.


Jeremy - You run very close in second spot but i'm afraid you dont get the cigar :(


Marmora Man - If I can find a way of exposing the unrealistic and completely obscure way the midlle classes of London live to the online world I shall do so. If this country were invaded by aliens i'm sure they would come to ED first because they would be able to get on with the bizarre ED newcomers easiest. Your ideas of school dinners are very tabloid, and the working classes wrote some of the greatest books of all time. Peckham Rye park still has vandals and dogs mess and people spitting everywhere, not to mention the bizarre South African and Aussie ex pats cooking meat on bbq's along with the odd newcomers who want to imagine theyre on Clapham common!


As you say though, back to topic, what sort of person do these bars attract? oh yes, we've covered that hehe


Louisa ;-)

Louisa,


The middle calsses cannot be both obscure and still be taking over the world (aka ED).


Bars attract drinkers - usually drinkers from their vicinity. Good bars attract a varied clientele and a larger vicinity, lousy bars attract very few of any variation from a much shorter distance.


The best bars will have admirals talking to dustbin men, judges debating with actors, civil servants discussing the news with doctors, buxom barmaids serving foaming pints of ale to thirsty men, groovy barmen mixing cocktails for attractive women. Try central London on any day of the week and you'll see all of this - and more.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> I prefer the the kind of pub where..

>

> ...old men wait silently for death

> ...the only wine available is Black Tower (and

> you're a puff if you order it anyway)

> ...bespattered plasterers leer at the occasional

> female visitor

> ...stolen goods are offered every time you go for

> a piss

> ...fleeting eye contact may lead to a sound

> beating

>

> What does everyone else think?


You missed out bored children sitting on the pavement outside occasionally going into the pub and pleading to be fed. Oh, and of course, all the locks in the cubicles having been kicked off along with the toilet seats.

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