Cannabis

[ratty]

RosieH Wrote:

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> ratty, I'd be interested to know how gateway drug

> is defined -

Well this is the catch. Not sure there is a definition as such. In my experience though, most heroin users have been introduced to the concept of escapism through drugs via cannabis. However, this is now very much changed as it is rare to find an opiate addict that was not or still is a crack user also.

Crack is now definitely the pre cursor to an opiate addiction, but I still beleive that cannabis has been in the past. Of course, not for everybody but the link is there and is strong.

I am seeing skunk causing it's own problems now, with levels of inertia and paranoia caused by quite shocking and akin to a pretty strong class A habit.

It is really sad watching people rot there lives away like this! :(

[Jah Lush]

As I said before there is far to much THC in skunk. I don't like it and don't smoke it. I smoke natural herbs. Not some bastardized modified crop. With crack users they need to come down and the perfect thing for that is smack and I guess if not then super strong skunk. Both heroin and crack are shit drugs. Loser drugs. Both highly addictive and will seriously fuck you up. Just say no kids.

[SteveT]

Ratty wrote:-

Sorry Jah, but having worked with heroin users for the last 15 years I can safely say that cannabis is very, very often a gateway drug and still is.

I know lots of people who have, and still do smoke cannabis,

I don't know any smack heads, which makes one wonder what percentage cross over to heroin.

[Jah Lush]

Only fools get into heroin. I had a flatmate years ago who was a heroin addict. He went straight to heroin bypassing everything else way before he touched a spliff. Strange but true.

[SteveT]

That is just ignorance on his part,

does he not know the correct procedure,

first it's fags and booze,

then a bit of puff or cannabis,

and then coke

and finally smack or crack,

its simple enough,

tsk tsk some people make heavy weather of the simplest tasks.

These heroine addicts would sell your furniture, or mug their own mother to get their fix. Totally untrustworthy.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Wouldn't most of those users have started on booze and cigs ratty? Are they not the gateway drug?

[RosieH]

My point some posts earlier up MacGabhann (ah see, we can't be seen in the same room at the same time after all)

[Narnia]

I had acid before I ever had a drink and got stoned before I ever had a ciggy. Does that make me backward?

[Jah Lush]

Not backward in coming forward.

[woofmarkthedog]

Never touch a drug that ends with ac/k

Crack

Smack

Prozac

It's been a life saver

W**F

[jamesb]

Seeks a sauce.

[malumbu]

A friend of mine had two bad experiences, first time in Swindon with a water pipe 24 years ago (not a bong they hasten to add), A Fripp and Eno record cover came to life and then they had to walk up and down the Old town unitl the effects wore off.

Then in Manali in Himcachel Predesh in India (I haven't checked the spelling) with a chillum. This time they knew what the effect was and that it would wear off. The other 1000 times nothing like this. It is really hard writing in the third person.

[*Bob*]

malumbu, you need to start posting more

your local forum needs you

[SeanMacGabhann]

sorry Rosie - my fault for skimming. Or your fault for using Latin somewhere in a post maybe

[RosieH]

Heh, is Jed Bartlett Latin - after it, therefore because of it.

Spurious.

[Pilch]

@bob - hilarious! :D

[Kingy]

Still a Fripp & Eno cover coming to life is a damn site better than Fripp & Eno coming to life

[Fabricio the Guido]

"Tell us about your own experience not something you've read out of Daily Mail or watched on telly." I like this, a lot.

[huncamunca]

I smoke dope and I just wanted to say that I am appalled by the erm Daily Mail comments on here and..erm...what was I on about ?

[JoeLeg]

Holy Thread Necromancy Batman!!!!!!!

[JoeLeg]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> malumbu, you need to start posting more

>

> your local forum needs you

This is fantastic!