David Beckham - The most over rated of men

[DulwichFox]

Is he as Over Rated as say Wayne Rooney ?

Now that What I call Over Rated

[taper]

2002 world cup playoff against Greece. Last minute goal on the back of a performance of staggering effort and quality, amidst a sea of dross.

[Dickensman]

Keef wrote:- With regards to his being "an icon", George Best is also described as such, and why should he be, but Becks not?

Mainly because Besty was a football genius and outshone anyone he played against, he made good competent players look slow and clumsy.

Rooney has some genius about him too rather like Gazza.

But for my money Best was the most outstanding player ever produced from these little islands, and Beckham is the end result of a publicity campaign which Besty created, being the first footballing superstar.

[Jah Lush]

Dickensman Wrote:

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> Rooney has some genius about him too rather like

> Gazza.

You were doing so well until you wrote that.

[Keef]

Yeah and Best was famous off pitch for being a womanising alcoholic, who fucked up his own playing career. What an icon!

[Jah Lush]

That's harsh Keef. After United won the European Cup in '68 with an ageing team that included a young Best they should have built the team around him. They fact they didn't and were eventually relegated only tells part of the story. The fact remains that as a player Beckham and anyone other modern day British footballer you care to name is not fit enough to clean the boots of the genius that was George Best.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I think Billy Wright may have been the first superstar (and he wore a bra).

[Keef]

I don't dispute Best-s skill at playing the game of football, but here people are talking about Beckham the player and the man. As a man, I think he seems a lot less self centred than Best.

[Narnia]

You're joking Keef? Best had his problems but Beckham seemed to engineer most things in his career to optimise his fame/wealth. Best was never like that.

[Keef]

It depends how you look at it. Yes Becks has embraced fame, but Best just didn't give a shite about anyone but Best.

But of course, he's a legend from the golden age of footy, they don't make them like that anymore, blah blah blah.

[Narnia]

Well you could say the same about any alcoholic. Is that what you are saying?

[Keef]

Er, no.

[????]

David Beckham has made the most of his undoubted talent as a footballer and his good looks to make a fortune. He has spoken out more vocally than many against racism and homophobia and seems on balance a rthoroughly decent man far, far better than many of his contemparies.

....and yet, and yet, us no marks from SE22 come out with the normal tall poppy shite like talentless, useless, lucky from the cosyness of our computers and our manifest lack of achievement

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[Huguenot]

Best had his last good game at the age of 27 in early '74 by all accounts, I'm quite impressed that anyone on this thread can remember him play.

I struggle to remember anything other than anecdotes from before my 20th year, so that would put the glory boy hyperbolists at 56 years old plus.

Subsequently he was paid by clubs such as Jewish Guild and Brisbane Lions. He wasn't famous for getting out of bed.

I saw him on telly, and he looked cool with his step-overs etc. Very much like Christian Ronaldo but with a heavier ball. When he didn't have the ball he looked more like a sulky Berbatov, refusing to get back and help his midfield.

In that sense I don't think Best deserves comparison with either Rooney as a striker, or Beckham who wasn't.

George Best, most overrated man in football, but evidently ahead of his time.

[Dickensman]

George Best, most overrated man in football, but evidently ahead of his time. wrote Huguenot

Well as I'm mid sixties and remember him well, especially on sticky muddy pitches as there was far more rain back in those days and as you so rightly point out, a heavier ball.

Best could keep on his feet better than anyone else, and when all around him were slide tackling only he stayed upright and danced around the recumbent opposition.

Jah you have to admit that both the drunken Gazza and the unfortunate potato faced Rooney, both had something extra in their game which most others could not match.

But Besty was always the best in my slender book of football hero's.

[Mick Mac]

I think you have let yourself down there huguenot.

I held you in such high esteem until that post. ;-)

You should refer to Jah's earlier post for a better perspective on Bestie.

[HonaloochieB]

paragon Wrote:

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> He only wear a pair of pants once. Which I my

> book makes him a legend.

At last something I have in common with David 'Becks' Beckham - he's a Primark man - who knew?

With 'slips' at ?3.00 for five, it's wear them once then press briefly into service as a dish cloth then dispose of them, not worth wasting Ariel Ultra Gel and Calgon tablets washing them is it?

[????]

You still wearing them on the outside of your trousers Honnie?

[HonaloochieB]

Of course Quids, when you're running low it's the best way of geting two days out of a pair without compromising all important support.

[????]

Do the turn 'em inside out trick and you can stretch that to four

[HonaloochieB]

Excellent advice Quids, I woner if there's any chance of getting it to David 'Becks' Beckham.

[Odyssey]

Huguenot, clearly you are speaking as someone who has just had his first shave. Let those of us who were around at the time to appreciate the marvellous skills of, without doubt, one of the world's finest players. In my opinion, George Best ranks as one of the true greats; almost as good as the great Pele.

[murphy]

???? Wrote:

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> David Beckham has made the most of his undoubted

> talent as a footballer and his good looks to make

> a fortune. He has spoken out more vocally than

> many against racism and homophobia and seems on

> balance a rthoroughly decent man far, far better

> than many of his contemparies.

>

>

> ....and yet, and yet, us no marks from SE22 come

> out with the normal tall poppy shite like

> talentless, useless, lucky from the cosyness of

> our computers and our manifest lack of

> achievement

>

>

> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Totally agree with ??? overall theme.

He did start to put commercial interests ahead of football, especially with the move to the US. He should have realised his football mistake and come back to Europe to play, apparently Victoria is very keen on the Hollywood lifestyle though. There are also endless tales of Beckham going out of his way to do personal favours for individuals and charities (without any PR and off his own bat - before the cynics have a go).

Over rated? If only more people made as much of their talent as he did and when successful gave as much back.

Look forward to seeing him at Spurs.

[Ladymuck]

HUGUENOT! Now you've done it!

George Best is my hero! Do you hear that?! My hero! He is solely responsible for my love of football and, to me, is the greatest player EVER! Oh how devastated I was when he left Manchester United.

Overrated? NEVER! Not in my book.

[ImpetuousVrouw]

RosieH Wrote:

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> He mighty purty. No talky though David, no talky.

I agree, he's nice to look at. So what else is important?

Edited to say that I do agree with Keef's tall poppy thing though too.