Can Camberwell Grove join East Dulwich?

[Michael Palaeologus]

Plate tectonics?

[downsouth]

Have to agree I like most of Camberwell. It does have some less salubrious parts which I used to naviagte as a youngster.

[macroban]

Only a metaphorical fault-line.

[downsouth]

you are correct on this occasion.

macroban Wrote:

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> Someone else - downsouth - told me my geography

> was lacking, but I'm under the impression that

> East Dulwich remains in the same place.

[mockney piers]

Camberwell borough circa 1885.

Not a borough anymore though is it? here's the local area, whatever that means http://visuals.sdgworld.net/camberwell2/

 

[Alan Dale]

Halcyon days.

[Spangles30]

Alan Dale, we are still waiting for you to specify the 'good' and sh@t' parts of ED on the other thread.

[lozzyloz]

I was just a town planners dream in an open ploughed field then!

In Peter Akroyds London he talks about (not exact words) places having a sort of historical genetic make up so that no matter what you do to try and change a place the character remains intact. Camberwell's anarchic character/soul being an example.

[macroban]

Nice map, lozzyloz.

Have you come across one for Camberwell Vestry too?

[lozzyloz]

Wish I could take the credit Macroban, it is a great map - thanks Mockney.

Somebody, I think David Mc, posted a link to a good map the other day.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

lozzyloz Wrote:

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...places having a sort of historical genetic

> make up so that no matter what you do to try and

> change a place the character remains intact.

Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens for me then!

[Earl Aelfheah]

We can't take being attached to a third-world country much longer.

I wonder whether this comment is merely overt snobbery, or whehter it's mixed with some covert racism too? Either way Maurice, I agree that you should not be living in Camberwell. You might want to reconsider South London generally.

[AllforNun]

Er...back in the mists of time.....LostInMusic if you were to ask most Londoners over the age of 60 about Camberwell Grove you may well get the quote that you obviously need. Now go stand in a lift and fart!

[Maurice]

Bl®ah Bl®ah Bl®ah

In answer to your silly racism allegation. Can you please tell me which groups of people are exempt and allowed anti-social behaviour and downright rudeness based on their race please?

Ta Ta Ta

[Alan Dale]

Maurice why do you equate anti-social behaviour and downright rudeness with third world countries?

[Ted Max]

The labling of anything in Britain as "third world" (trains, health service etc) is useful shorthand for "I am a bit of an idiot with no sense of perspective, you can safely ignore the rest of this post/ column/ party political broadcast etc"

And to avoid lounging, the answer to the thread question is "no".

[Maurice]

Ah come on Ted Max. We have a syringe exchange programme next to a childcare centre here already so you could argue 'already got one, don't need another'.

I've been to third world countries. Feels like walking in Camberwell.

[Nero]

I equate pissing in the street, jostling to get on buses, spitting on public transport, dropping food and other litter willy nilly as third-world behaviour. I've seen it in Camberwell and Peckham and in central London and Manchester and Leeds. I've also seen it in China and India. Nero

[Alan Dale]

Which of those is third world?

[Maurice]

Which?

Camberwell Alan. Keep up ;-)

[Alan Dale]

Oh right. That's a relief as I was quite impressed with Leeds.

[Ted Max]

Sorry, Maurice, you'll have to try again. I've got no objection to needle exchanges.

So, no, still no entry to marvellous first world East Dulwich I'm afraid. You'll have to stick it out with the starving masses on the other side of the hill.

[*Bob*]

Third World or not, it's in Zone 2 - with excellent transport links and home of the mighty 'Silver Buckle'.

Beat that, Malawi!

[Alan Dale]

Yeah- nice lake but you can't earn a pound note.

[Maurice]

I had to add a somewhat serious point to this. Your syringe debate shows why I want to move into ED. In a matter of minutes dozens were out debating and those on different sides were rounding up troops off this board who can and will have an impact on a local issue. Whatever your views, ED has leadership for a community voice. Camberwell does not. A few talk ideas and such, but no momentum, no voice, no progress.