Bin Laden - dead

[StraferJack]

Conspiracy theorists are so embarrassing.

Shot despots being so more photogenic than those blown to shit for example

You are the Donald trumps of the world

[DJKillaQueen]

Those blow to shit are not disposed of at sea either!

[*Bob*]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> And yes I have plenty of understanding of how

> governemnt, politicians and councils work thank

> you very much.

But of course..

[frierntastic]

DJKQ is the first person in the world to accuse the Obama administration of neo-conservatism! You heard it here first!

Seems that Obama is a Muslim/neo-con/immigrant all at once! Poor guy must be mighty confused. Go and speak to Donald Trump DJKQ - perhaps you can both wear tin-foil hats to protect you from the governments mind-probes.....

[Willard]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Conspiracy theorists are so embarrassing.

>

> Shot despots being so more photogenic than those

> blown to shit for example

>

> You are the Donald trumps of the world

What evidence do you have that he was blown to bits and not shot?. His body was carted off to Afghanistan (a landlocked country) before then being dumped at sea. So I'm assuming it was largely intact and not blown to shit.

I just think it was a dumb move because it just fuels the fire for future theories.

[mockney piers]

Whilst I'm no conspiracy theorist, it's hardly surprising that after all the lies around Iraq and the blatant deceit of trying lo link Saddam to 9-11 that no one believes a word the president says, so profoundly has the institution been damaged, first by Clinton and then much more severely by Bush.

That said it would be fankly bizarre to make this claim now under a false pretence.

I do agree that in terms of PR it has been handled woefully badly and the decision to 'bury at sea' without so much a snapshot released to bolster the claim is very odd indeed.

It does leave you wondering if he's really in some dank cellar in Colombia or Saudi Arabia with some nasty outsourced men getting medieval on his ass.

[Huguenot]

It seems unlikely that Bin Laden would have been 'found' now for political reasons. There have been plenty of other times historically where it would have been expedient to find him, not least for the Dubya legacy.

I tend to agree in general with the points about the dumping of the body at sea, but not for the same reasons.

It's an obligation under Islam to bury bodies within 24 hours, and the outcry if this hadn't taken place would have been extremely destructive. Hence whether it was dumped or not dumped it needed to be seen to be disposed of. A land burial would have risked becoming a shrine or the body being dug up again for any number of unhelpful reasons, so was out of the question.

I don't really see the benefit of holding the body if it can't be used for propaganda purposes. I mean what are they going to do? Examine the brain for evidence of evil?

So on balance if there was a body, I think they probably wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible.

That doesn't mean he's not somewhere extremely unpleasant at some uncomfortable midpoint between life and death.

[Willard]

Just to put these conspiracy theories to bed, this is what really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiDyrkU0WAQ&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_305892

[DJKillaQueen]

frierntastic Wrote:

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> DJKQ is the first person in the world to accuse

> the Obama administration of neo-conservatism! You

> heard it here first!

No I did not....talk about reading what you want to read.....I referred to the previous administration. Get it right.

[DJKillaQueen]

I think that the lack of proof along with the past behaviour of American adminstrations is the issue here isn't it. Because the only people who are really going to benefit from the use of conspiracy theories are surely the Jihadists themselves. Without proof they can always claim, as they have done before, that Osama Bin Laden is alive and well. We've had no end of fake videos with lookalike impersonators for example over the past years.

[jumpinjackflash]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> Totally agree Willard...they showed photos of the

> bodies of Saddam Hussein's dead sons for example.

> Surely the most wanted man in the world would

> share a similar postumous image.....if not from

> the government, from the mobile phone or camera of

> the many who would have had a hand in the process

> of killing and then disposing of him. But if the

> Americans say it's true, we should believe them of

> course.......

EXACTLY. Where are the photos/video footage?? So the US authorities say his DNA was a 100% match to that of his relatives...proof please?? Could have been anyone of his relatives in that compound he had about 300 offspring!

Frierntastic... I'm a 32 year old woman I don't need to be deemed as 'cool' - as you put it - to be 'anti-establishment'. Seriously, get over yourself mate.

Captured, killed, given a religious funeral and buried at sea within in 24 hours my backside..

[huncamunca]

Whatever you think of the US administration, they are not stupid enough to make this announcement without it being correct.

Whether he has been captured or indeed killed will keep conspiraloons going for decades.

A dead Bin Laden avoids any messy aftermath & further opportunities for PR & agitation by the AQ franchise.Whether there was any attempt to capture him alive is a further debate - though I would suggest that it was accepted that he was going to be executed if captured alive anyway. Another Che.

[jctg]

He's dead. No conspiracy theory. I'm sure conspiracy theories didn't exist before the bloody internet....

[Asset]

yes they did

[jctg]

I'm half-joking... but there just seems to be instant conspiracy theories about every bloody event these days.

[skipper]

Where's the conspiracy?

The US was never going to let him get away. Buried at short notice at sea to avoid a shrine, preferred dead than captured for obvious reasons, pictures to follow. A sad case of imperial might vs theocratic fascism.

The best, and I admit entirely unlikely solution, was for a FOX/SKY televised, Bin Laden vs Rumsfeld, no holds barred bore-a-thon. Keep shouting and gesticulating until a meaningless fatigue sets in and Rumsfelds known-unknowns segue beautifully into Bin Ladens promise of a glorious afterlife. Then we could all go to bed and wake up again, same as it ever was.

[jctg]

skipper Wrote:

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> Where's the conspiracy?

That he's not dead, it wasn't him etc.

[Jah Lush]

Well if he isn't dead, and I'm sure he is, it'll be a bit embarrassing all round if he's spotted in Sainsburys doing the weekly shop.

Will Donald Trump ask to see the death certificate?

[wjfox]

[taper]

Elton John's bringing out a song to mark the occasion.

[edited because i see this joke has appeared in the Daily Mail]

That's evidence enough for me.

[Willard]

He's definitely not dead, everyone knows you don't take the Bins out on a bank holiday.

[taper]

That's a good one. Very good.

[Ridgley]

Very witty Willard. Will all the Conspiracy theorists be convinced once they show proof of his burial at sea or should they have put his head on a spike at the White House?

[taper]

I liked the image created by David Letterman's "72 Vegans" awaiting OBL in paradise.

But as ever in these matters it's best to turn to Mark Twain who said:

'I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.'

[Ridgley]

Taper wrote

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'I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.'

Give me the old fashion drawn and quarter method, and send his parts to all the Al qaeda cells as a deterrent

( fast chance of seeing that)