Jump to content

Recommended Posts

On the subject of Tevez and his response to Gary Neville, it's worth noting that Man Utd did actually offer the asking price for him and were prepared to make him one of their highest paid players. He and his handlers didn't seem happy with this. He chased the green in the end by signing for City. Therefore he can't really play the ousted hero who had Untied in his heart. Neville was asked about Tevez and he simply stated that Ferguson was not prepared to pay over the oddds for any player. Fair comment if you ask me.

Except that Neville routinely, even as captain, refuses to answer questions about the Glazer's and United's finances on the grounds that it is a financial issue and players should not comment on that (wrongly imo). Yet he feels happy to comment on the financial aspects of ex-player's transfer dealings.


Double standards.

He was asked a direct question about Tevez and gave what I thought was a quite diplomatic yet honest answer. He did not mention precise figures. I'm not sure he knows the precise ins and outs of the Glazer's finances and he's right not to discuss it. His comments regarding Tevez were about a player and that player's value. In a nutshell he said he wasn't worth the money being asked for him. Fair comment and not really a comment on the club's finances, more an observation on the value of a player.

I doubt whether he knows the precise ins and outs of the Tevez deal either tbh but he felt comfortable answering questions about it.


And knowledge of United's finances isn't hard to come by. Just read David Conn in the Guardian for fantastic investigative reporting on the gradual destruction of a club. Or listen to the tens of thousands of United fans voicing their disgust at every home game.


Neville is coming to the end of a long and successful career. As captain and smoeone who has spent their whole career at one club he should grow a pair and speak up at a glaring wrong.


Then again he could just pocket another 60k for a week's work and keep schtum.

He's currently under contract so it would not be in his interests to risk being sacked for speaking out against the Glazers. I don't think this indicates that he has no balls, just that he is sensible. It will be interesting to see what he has to say about it when he finally leaves Old Trafford, just as it will be with Fergie

Gary Neville is a moron - but is long enough in the tooth to know how the media pick up on quotes given by players.


United only offered the asking price because other teams wanted him during summer, e.g. City, Liverpool - until that point United only offered a reduced price (on what had originally been agreed at start of loan). Tevez probably saw United's attempt at getting him on the cheap as an insult and lack of respect. Maybe he used this an excuse because unlike other United players he backed Ronaldo's right to quit Old Trafford in summer 2008 which I read as an indication that he was thinking of a similar move once his loan expired 12 months later (summer '09)

Tevez took it as an insult that United we're trying to get him on the cheap ! Since when does it concern a player how much he is valued at? Surely his only concern is what he is getting paid. If Tevez had some loyalty to a club who would have received the transfer fee then fair enough, it's going back into the game. But where exactly did his transfer fee go? To his handlers that's where. A bunch of fat cat businessmen. There is something immoral about that and I'm sure Fergie, being the socialist he is, begrudged giving some consortium all that money so readily particularly when the game would not benefit from it.

Ferguson a socialist - hahaha!


There was more to it than the price. It was sitting on the bench. It was Ferguson talking about Tevez not being worth that amount - i.e. you are not as good as Berbatov and Rooney. None of this good for the psyche of a player. If Tevez had the loyalty you call for he'd probably have stayed at West Ham.

Yes he is. He was born and brought up i the Gorbels to a father who worked in the Shipyards. He may earn money now, but his values remain the same. I think you are being very disrespectful to him. He is a knight of the realm and a great man. I'm not a Man Utd fan but I can recognize this. Team selection is his choice and he does it well. Tevez saw a lot of action for United. The football world is littered with players who are self serving. A succesful manager cannot afford to be. He must do what is right for the team, not the individual.

I also think that you have to take into account the downtourn in global finances. The deal for Tevez was agreed (supposedly) before the global recession kicked in and I think you would find any large institution re-evaluating commitments made before the bottom fell out of the world financial markets. It's certainly something that other big businesses have done and so why not a football club? It's pretty short sighted of Tevez and his representatives not to take this into account and think of his long term future at a great club.


I'm sure we'll beat them tonight, but even if we don't Tevez won't go on to achieve as much as Gary Neville has in his career. Tevez should respect him and his past glories.



Are you trying to fill someone else's boots here Matthew? A comment like that deserves some reasoning behind it. Other than that it's no different to liking or disliking a character in a soap opera. Have you met Gary Neville?


I don't believe Tevez is all that good. As United had him on loan for 2 years at ?3.5M p.a. ,my understanding is that they felt that should have been taken into account when the asking price was ?32M i.e. they would pay ?25M


Mind you I don't believe Rooney is all that good either!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • But I don't think that was what you meant, was it? But he can hardly be held responsible for what somebody else did! Just discovered I forgot to post the above  last night, and now it's overtaken by long posts.  I don't have sufficient knowledge  to counter some of what has been said above, some of which appears to be opinion rather than facts, so it would be pointless for me to say anything else.
    • I am sure our lovely Evri delivery team, who do a firkin hard job, take the time between drops to read the East Dulwich Forum 🤫
    • For every person like OP that moans their doorbell was rung and there was a knock on the door, there's someone else moaning that they didn't hear the delivery drivers. If you've ever done delivery work you'll know that loads of people's bells don't work. The delivery drivers probably goes to a hundred doors a day: press bell, knock door, drop package, move on. If you don't like delivery drivers, insist on delivery by Royal Mail where the workers have wages and a union - or just stop ordering shit online that's artificially cheap. But most of us (me included) don't want that
    • If someone comes to my house and bangs my door and slams my gate, I'd speak to them about it nicely and ask if they would please not do that. And then subsequently less nicely if they keep doing it, ending in reporting them.  We don't slam doors at home and I don't put up with that either. I can see us moving to a culture where we bribe drivers to be nice by tipping them, but we shouldn't have to. It's not necessary - does not matter if they are on minimum wage or not, or if society means that delivery services are outsourced or whatever reason anyone would like to concoct.     
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...