TfL plan to reroute Bus 40 away from London Bridge

[Curmudgeon]

The 40 is the only bus to the city and the trains have already been decimated

Completely opposed

[BeadyBoo]

I just completed the online form adding comments as to why I want the current 40 route to remain. Anyone who uses Southern knows how unreliable the rail service can be and this bus route is a an efficient way to get to London Bridge, that or bike or cab !

Don?t wait until it?s gone.

[heartblock]

I?m completely opposed. I live in the ward that James is a councillor, one I voted for and posted leaflets through many doors for, so I hope he pays attention.

My partner depends on the 40 to work in a homeless project near LB. without the 40 his already long shifts would be longer due to lack of transport options. The 40 needs to remain the same.

[rendelharris]

I don't support this change but just so people are aware, the 343 which runs from Nunhead along the east side of Peckham Rye park then past PR station goes to London Bridge.

[sparklehorse]

I'm also completely opposed to this change. There needs to be a direct bus service from ED to London Bridge.

Also it seems perverse that they propose that the new route would go along Blackfriars, when elsewhere in the consultation they argue that there are already too many routes along Blackfriars.

[James Barber]

Great to see many saying they've completed the consultation. Please spread the details to friends and family to maximise responses. I've personally responded against this change and will be doing so on behalf of the local Lib Dems.

People decide where to live in a balance of public and private transport options to live, work and play alongside work, school and recreation considerations. A number of people will be here in East Dulwich based on where buses can take them. For many changing buses to get from East Dulwich to wherever wasn't part of the equation. So these proposals will have a huge impact on many for no obvious gain - if you wanted to travel directly by bus to Clerkenwell you probably don't live here.

Background is the 2016 London mayoral elections all candidate knew that the government subsidy for London public transport was going to be massively cut. The current mayor knew this and also made an election commitment to freeze fares without mentioning the method of achieving this - beware politicians offering freebies. He was relying on Crossrail being delivered on time, which is forecast to generate almost ?1bn of revenue pa, filling that subsidy cut. Sadly the London Mayor and TfL have screwed up and Crossrail is now 9 months late and expected to be delayed further. That's a loss of revenue of ?125 for every resident of London pa. This has create huge extra pressures to cut services to fulfil that election promise.

So these bus changes, on top of the already reduced no.40 and 176 bus route frequencies, are part of trying to fulfil that election promise and save money for TfL to avoid fare rises.

But their are other ways to see money. The London Mayor has a number of different organisations - TfL, Met Police, London Fire Brigade to name the obvious ones and they don't share back office function, supplier contracts, or offices, etc. I'm amazed no effort is being put into this sharing.

[El Presidente]

It is hard to draw from this thread any conclusion other than widespread and vehement opposition to changing the number 40 bus route. I would hope our local elected representatives don't let their shared politics with the Mayor get in the way of strongly representing local people's views.

[Lynne]

I.m completely opposed.

[Bic Basher]

The 40 would have a tiny advantage connection to Farringdon for Crossrail/Elizabeth line when it eventually opens, but to send a well used bus from ED to Clerkenwell Green where not much happens before then is a waste of resources.

[ed26]

First time reading this thread for a month or so since I last made a comment. Interesting to see that the unanimous opposition to this idea is viewed as "mixed feelings." I hope that Councillor McAsh will take an opportunity to raise the local community's concerns publicly rather than waiting for the outcome of the consultation.

Interesting comments from James Barber re TfL's funding. Didn't spending money that we haven't earned yet almost bankrupt the country in the late 2000s, leading to that shameful "I?m afraid there is no money. Kind regards ? and good luck!" note? Now London has done exactly the same thing.

It reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer runs for Springfield council by making unaffordable promises: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trash_of_the_Titans

[Abe_froeman]

If what James Barber says is correct then I suspect this bus route is doomed, because you won't see labour councillors going up against a labour mayor.

[Jennys]

I am also totally opposed to any change to the 40 bus route.

[JohnL]

ed26 Wrote:

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> Interesting comments from James Barber re TfL's

> funding. Didn't spending money that we haven't

> earned yet almost bankrupt the country in the late

> 2000s, leading to that shameful "I?m afraid there

> is no money. Kind regards ? and good luck!" note?

> Now London has done exactly the same thing.

>

> It reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer

> runs for Springfield council by making

> unaffordable promises:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trash_of_the_Titans

Don't fall for this - the bad debt that caused the 2008 crash was financial implements to do with property speculation etc which were wrapped up and sold on. If anything it was lack of regulation - but politicians didn't seem to understand what was going on.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/06/decade-after-financial-meltdown-underlying-problems-not-fixed

Anyway this government has just spent a little by the sound of Spreadsheet Phil.

[Zebedee Tring]

I am strongly against the proposed rerouting of the 40 bus.

[Miacis]

Guy's is now main cancer treatment centre for SE London. Recently diagnosed, I know that I will need to use 40 rather than train to get to outpatients for chemo. Shorter walk to bus stop, no need to change and pretty much guaranteed a seat make it the only realistic alternative to a cab.

If you're fit and well the train to lb is faster if more expensive. It's a completely different prospect if you're unwell or just slow on your pins

[pearl1]

There are often no trains from East Dulwich at the weekend. The 40 is a necessary route. It should not be changed.

[natty01295]

Contact us TFL About Buses;

https://tfl.gov.uk/help-and-contact/contact-us-about-buses

Make a Complaint;

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/lez-contact-us-make-complaint-failure-37754

[rendelharris]

Miacis Wrote:

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> Guy's is now main cancer treatment centre for SE

> London. Recently diagnosed, I know that I will

> need to use 40 rather than train to get to

> outpatients for chemo. Shorter walk to bus stop,

> no need to change and pretty much guaranteed a

> seat make it the only realistic alternative to a

> cab.

>

> If you're fit and well the train to lb is faster

> if more expensive. It's a completely different

> prospect if you're unwell or just slow on your

> pins

Sorry to hear of your diagnosis - would the 42 be any help to you? Get on at Sainsbury's, ED station or outside ED hospital, if you get off at Druid Street you're less than half a mile from Guy's cancer centre (which I know can seem a marathon in the midst of chemo). Wishing you a swift and full recovery.

[PSJ]

It is really quick and easy to fill in the consultation (https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/central-london/?cid=central-london-bus-consultation), and you have until Nov 9 - why not just do it quickly now so you don't have to kick yourself after Nov 10 for not having done it in time?

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

I?ve done it so I hope everyone else has too!

[Elphinstone's Army]

We have all (four of us) filled in the consultation form, 'cos every opinion counts.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Opposed.

Any bus change at the Elephant would be chaotic, onward buses arriving at the Elephant would already be full.

Councillors, pull your finger out and reflect the views of your registered voters.

[ed26]

@Michael Palaeologus - I don't think they want to.

[clairedaly]

I absolutely oppose this change as I depend on bus route 40

[Bubbles]

100% opposed to any changes to the 40 bus route.