Flightpaths over ED

[SplendidLikePeckham]

thanks

[djfitz]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Sorry to go off topic here - but what a fantastic

> name - SplendidLikePeckham

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> That is all

Hear, Hear.

Inspired!

[Keef]

This thread is funny.

[AcedOut]

Brilliant!

Back on topic - Can't they just come in at a higher altitude and take a steeper landing path closer to the airport, just like they did at the old HKK airport!? Yesterday was crazy - they were coming directly over my flat. There were 2 within 2 minutes of each other. I think one was heading to City and the other Heathrow.

Why can't they invent planes that can glide in to land!!? Wouldn't that be great :) lol

[Asset]

Not sure I'd feel happy on a plane with a steep landing angle. It's bad enough as it is.

[AcedOut]

Come it, it'd be fun! Nothing like a sharp wake up call on arrival. ;)

[cicelyl]

The flights come in lower when there is cloud cover (they try to go under the cloud) and also it depends where the plane was in the stack when it comes off the stack. If it was at the top, it comes in higher, if it was at the bottom it comes in low. Also, planes now come in lower than they did five years ago. They now 'glide' in. This is to reduce noise levels on areas close to the aiport from the planes making a steep descent and to reduce fuel consumption. The result is planes being lower much further out than they used to be. Technically the government does not recognise that ED has a plane noise problem as the noise levels are high enough to be considered bothersome. This is why contacting (and keeping up that contact) government memders is so important. They don't think we have an issue!

Lastly, the reports are that the planes will ger LOWER in the new expansion plans. I did some rough number crunching and if the government gets its way do away with runway alteration and expand runway use, ED could have one plane a minute going over it for 16 hours a day. That would only give us half the flight going over London a day. ED is on a straight line to Heathrow so ED will be very badly effected by the expansion. All I can say is that I will be long gone from the hood by then. I do not want to spend my life looking at the sky, turning up the stereo, shutting the windows, not using the garden and lying awake counting planes at 5am....The flight noise over ED is sad joke.

I will look into the petition.

[AcedOut]

Very depressing news indeed. So the 'gliding in' reduces the noise for those that live closer to the airport, but increases it for those living further out.

I've never had much sympathy for people that chose to live near airports anyway, so sod 'em I'd say! I chose to live out in ED to get away from city noise and never expected low flying aircraft!

Tessa Jowell is the MP we should email. Here it is...

[email protected]

[AcedOut]

my email has been sent. I urge everyone to do the same.

[AcedOut]

From the automated email:

If you are contacting Tessa about constituency casework please make sure

that you included:

Your full name.

Your postal address (including full postcode if known).

A contact telephone number.

Any reference numbers that relate to your case.

A summary of your problem including any steps you may have taken

[Asset]

HACAN

[stench]

"Technically the government does not recognise that ED has a plane noise problem"

The government is right!!

[JenSpen]

It was really bad yesterday morning, did anyone notice that? Stopped me getting a lie in!

[SteveT]

A lie in, on Thursday?

Some of us dream about a lie in, mid-week.

[mockney piers]

"Not sure I'd feel happy on a plane with a steep landing angle. It's bad enough as it is."

You obviously haven't had the joy of landing at city approaching from the west then. As you pass over Canary wharf you start a manoeuvre that wouldn't have been unfamiliar to stuka pilots.

It's quite fun after your first time.

[Nero]

I am back from holiday and was woken by the planes this morning. The only thing to do, for me at least, is to get up and do something less boring instead. It is the really early ones that are the worst. The far east planes come in first and they are all queueing up to get in, the varmints! Double glazing is not that effective, likewise earplugs. The only solution is to go to bed early and look forward to the early morning run/crossword/baking/gym visit.

[snorky]

As much as it galls me, I accept the noise as part & parcel of access to air travel. few of us can legitimately claim to oppose the use of these planes if we go on holiday / buy mange tout / use DHL ...ad nauseum. YOu Been been shopping to NYC ? a conference in HK or a romantic break in Paree ?

Do you want the best for the world or the best of both worlds ?

[AcedOut]

They do now:

Dear Mr xxxxxxx,

Thank you for your email.

I have written to Rt. Hon. Ruth Kelly MP, the Secretary of State at the Dept. for Transport, and I will get back to you when I receive a response.

In the meantime, if there is anything further I can do to be of assistance, please do get in touch.

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

Rt. Hon. Tessa Jowell MP

[AcedOut]

If anyone wants to back this up, the reference number of the email is 01083327.

The email (again) is [email protected]

[Sue]

AcedOut Wrote:

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> They do now:

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> Dear Mr xxxxxxx,

>

> Thank you for your email.

>

> I have written to Rt. Hon. Ruth Kelly MP, the

> Secretary of State at the Dept. for Transport, and

> I will get back to you when I receive a response.

>

> In the meantime, if there is anything further I

> can do to be of assistance, please do get in

> touch.

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

>

>

> Rt. Hon. Tessa Jowell MP

xxxxxx

I had exactly the same email from Tessa Jowell a week or so back :)

[AcedOut]

I suspect it's from Julia or Duncan, who look after her office. Standard reply.

[Sue]

Really? I would have thought she'd have dealt with all her correspondence immediately and personally, with an individually tailored reply to each punter :))

Shan't vote for her again then :))

[mikeb]

Think it's worth just celebrating the relative peace of the last few days. Easterly winds forecast to continue over the weekend.

[Sue]

Yes, the quietness has been really noticeable, hasn't it - bliss :)

[SteveT]

Village life has resumed, hooray.