Forest Hill Tavern - Late Night Noise (Lounged)

[booatthenell]

I run a pub in covent garden and we had the same problem with residents complaining about the noise. When the council visited, they said they couldn't see a problem. So we set a meeting with the residents that live close by and managed to sort out they grievences.

It makes a massive difference when you actually get to know the people you're complaining about!!!!

[woody]

and was the problem about noise during the evening or about disturbances in the middle of the night ?

[Booboo2008]

Oh c'mon Boatthenell. Covent Garden is an established area for socialising in the west end. We are in a residential area. I have no problem contacting the owner but imagine that it will fall on deaf ears given the wonga is his raking in from charging ?5 entry..... Can't wait for tonight. It's "Surgery" night tonight apparently...

[booatthenell]

I understand what you're saying, but shouldn't you at least try???? If the manager is unwilling to listen, then obviously you take it further. At least then you know that you've done everything possible to come to an amicable solution.

In answer to your question woody, it was late evening. from around 10pm till 1am. I'm not unsympathetic to your prediciment, but i just think you should try to be reasonable before bulldozing in with all guns blazing. If the manager doesn't know that you have a problem with the noise, how is he suppose to appease you???

It's very difficult to control noise pollution once patrons have left your premises.

[woody]

I agree with your point and know that it is difficult to control noise once outsdie the premises. BUT.....the conditions of the license are no noise outside the premises after 10:30 or so. this noise is occuring at 3-4am and is violent in nature.....

[booatthenell]

OK> But how is that the pubs fault???? surely the area should be policed, so that it becomes the individuals that are punished rather than the establishment???

[woody]

condition of the license granted to them....booboo2008 sent the link with the conditions....tis the pubs responsibility

[JohnL]

FHT - not really an appropriate name anymore.

They don't want local customers and seem to be a club not a pub.

Bouncer outside last night seemed to be operating a dress code too. Depressing.

[macroban]

Is this the promoter that is causing the noise problem?

There's time for pre-emptive action.

[Cassius]

jrussel Wrote:

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> Maybe someone who recognises the right of people

> to enjoy themselves despite the grumblings of

> NIMBY local residents.

>

> If you can't deal with a bit of noise now and

> again, why are you living in one of the world's

> biggest and busiest cities? I suggest you should

> go and stagnate in your cardigan and slippers

> somewhere in Zone 6.

Must say that I've not noticed that Forest Hill Road has fallen slap bang in the middle of Hackney or Shoreditch without letting any of its residents know. (sorry I've bitten!)

I've been to the FHT once - that was enough - I scarpered back down to the Herne sharpish! But then I like to enjoy myself without disturbing other people.

[Keef]

Still not sure you can say it's the pub's responsibility. If they are outside for a smoke and shouting and screaming, then yes, but if they leave the pub and get in to a fight at the bus stop, I'm not sure the pub have anything to do with that.

[Cassius]

Someone I know was contesting a late night opening of a bar elsewher in London and one of the points raised was that the majority of the noise came as people left the bar and were no longer in it's jurisdiction, and the outcome was that the noise levels would be reviewed after 3 months and the late-night license rescinded if there was a high number of complaints about the noise - even though the bar could not be legally responsible for it.

[Booboo2008]

A few weeks ago I was walking back from Si Mangia on a Friday night and we walked past the FHT at only about 10:30pm but already the music was thumping. According to their website, they will now be having "club-nights" every weekend and not just the first weekend of every month. What joy.

[tl]

making my first post after 'google-ing' to see if there was anything about the FHT, and to see if this is an issue for anybody else. And here it is right at the top of your forum!

my missus complained to the council the other weekend aftet having enough of the noise. they have said if it happens again they will come around again but really i dont see that it is neccesary, the council should look at the license they granted without consulting local residents and see that it makes no sense! i appreciate the pub can't do much about its patrons after kicking out time but the noise from the pub is the first issue I think needs tackling. i will say aswell that if it keeps me awake about 100 yards away surely it is not just us and the guy on here who is unappreciative.

[MadWorld74]

I was in the FHT this evening, and they have flyers up for another three club nights finishing at 3am, coming up real soon.

They've cornered a part of the market that is just not in ED, and that's to go out dancing (to club anthems)(choon) and for that they've got business savy. Business savy because if you fancy an old skool knees up who the in their right minds would want to go down The Fridge and risk getting jumped.

As for the noise, I appreciate it can be loud and a bloody nuisance but don't get involved by shouting out the window "why can't you shut the f*ck up you wankers"..as tempting as it is. Contact the council and until they do something, keep a log of the noise (time started and ended) and.... wear earplugs.

I wear earplugs and I can't hear a thing.

[????]

At last, what sound like a good night in SE22...I may come out of retirement

[jodevious]

macroban Wrote:

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> Is this the promoter that is causing the noise

> problem?

>

> There's time for pre-emptive action.

I am shocked that you are passing your grievances onto the forthcoming SMITTEN party?

I am one of MANY promoters at the FHT, and like I said in my own thread, nobody has complained about either of my events on May 26th or August 2nd.

This is simply because we operate a professional system and are respectful to the fact that there are residents nearby, hence our goodwill in informing the local residents of East Dulwich of our forthcoming events and intentions.

I should point out that such unfounded and unresearched accusations are libelous.

[Michael Palaeologus]

or, perhaps people should contact the Council and let THEM talk to you.

[Cassius]

"I should point out that such unfounded and unresearched accusations are libelous."

Sounds a bit defensive to me - are you going to sue people for wanting to get a good nights sleep?

[ratty]

>

> I am shocked that you are passing your grievances

> onto the forthcoming SMITTEN party?

>

> I am one of MANY promoters at the FHT, and like I

> said in my own thread, nobody has complained about

> either of my events on May 26th or August 2nd.

>

> This is simply because we operate a professional

> system and are respectful to the fact that there

> are residents nearby, hence our goodwill in

> informing the local residents of East Dulwich of

> our forthcoming events and intentions.

>

> I should point out that such unfounded and

> unresearched accusations are libelous.

I cannot type what I want to reply to this post whilst still being civil. Just keep the noise down or fook off!

[jodevious]

Cassius Wrote:

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> "I should point out that such unfounded and

> unresearched accusations are libelous."

>

> Sounds a bit defensive to me - are you going to

> sue people for wanting to get a good nights sleep?

Libel: defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.

I think this accurately describes any unfounded finger pointing? :'(

[Brendan]

Is accusing someone of libel when they are not actually guilty of it libellous?

[jimbo1964]

I think if local people are pissed of with the noise that you (amongst others) are causing it's not really libel. Sounds more like a genuine grievance.

[Cassius]

How do you know that the finger pointing is unfounded? Why should people come onto a forum such as this to make a complaint that is unfounded?

As a promoter you have a vested interest in these events.

[Mark]

I'm guessing the FHT may just have to make a bit of extra effort to keep people quiet when they leave the building early in the morning. Joe's obviously aware of this so give him a chance.

ps "Is this the promoter that is causing the noise problem?" is not libellous.