Parking for Bicycles

[johnie]

Not that we need more house price inflation, but

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/living-near-boris-bike-station-could-boost-your-house-price-10161894.html

[aquarius moon]

It's quite fashionable to have a go at DulwichFox isn't it? You think you'll become more popular on the forum by doing so? You are wrong.

Or maybe you think it worked before with Louisa, keep it up and he'll leave too. Also wrong.

Foxy has got more sense than to take any notice of all the crap posts. He'll carry on giving advice, carry on being negative (as well as being occasionally positive!), carry on adding some humour and most people will enjoy reading his posts.

[DuncanW]

Granted, the forum would be quite dull if people didn't disagree with each other.

But I don't really understand starting a thread with an implied, then later stated, point of view, finding out that virtually no-one agrees with you, and then moaning that the EDF isn't representative of broader views in the area.

Did I miss something?

[Seabag]

Atticus Wrote:

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> DF, you habitually go after people and habitually

> get disproved. I'm no saint on this forum but your

> raison d'?tre here appears to be one of

> outsmarting, one which perpetually fails.

At least he's consistent tho

[Muley]

matthew123 Wrote:

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"but it is somehow assumed

that the rest of us are doing cartwheels over the

idea of these pieces of metal junk lining our

streets"

Such as cars, for example?

[MissMadMoo]

Muley, very well said!

[matthew123]

I'd rather see the street lined with aesthetically pleasing German cars than this heap of bike shed junk - why can't they just put in the docking stations like with the Boris bikes. The proposed bike shed design really is an eyesore, okay maybe it looks good on an allotment garden but on the street please, do me a favour!

[Jeremy]

I don't know what's worse... the usual militant cyclist nonsense, or bizarre claims that a cycle rack is going to cause loss of sleep...

[edcam]

They look completely hideous. Terrible idea.

[matthew123]

Some people are lighter sleepers than others Jeremy, so yes people faffing around with bike locks, closing bike hanger door late at night or early morning is not a win-win situation for all neighbours whose bedrooms overlook the contraption. Now it all depends on how considerate the users of the bike shed are but what if they're the same bunch who don't give a damn about pedestrians on London Bridge each morning, are they going to give a hoot?

[DuncanW]

Jeremy - what militant cyclist nonsense?

[Earl Aelfheah]

cathy p j Wrote:

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> We also received a document from Southwark council

> on Saturday, saying that there is a proposal for a

> cycle hangar to be installed in our road in

> Nunhead, almost outside our house, with the

> consequent loss of a parking space. The document

> refers to the council website for more

> information, but I can't find any further

> information about it there. If anyone can let me

> have more details, I would be very grateful.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Cathy

I think they take up half a (car) parking space and provide an additional 6 bike parking spaces.

[DulwichFox]

And what if some one comes along with a pair of Bulk Croppers..

They will be off with 6 bikes in 5 mins.

Just attracts thieves..

Keep them safe in your house where they can be added to your home insurance for less than the hire charge.

It may me a little inconvenient but in the long run I think it's worth it.

DulwichFox

[Earl Aelfheah]

They have a gas assisted door so they cannot be slammed shut.

[Earl Aelfheah]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> And what if some one comes along with a pair of

> Bulk Croppers..

>

> They will be off with 6 bikes in 5 mins.

>

> Just attracts thieves..

>

> Keep them safe in your house where they can be

> added to your home insurance for less than the

> hire charge.

>

> It may me a little inconvenient but in the long

> run I think it's worth it.

>

> DulwichFox

you still lock your bike, even when it's parked inside the hanger.

[ruffers]

DuncanW Wrote:

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> Jeremy - what militant cyclist nonsense?

Good one.

[Muley]

Certainly, the aesthetics of the design could be improved, and probably will if the scheme is successful, but the idea remains sound. Is the opposition to the hangers based solely on aesthetic grounds? As previously stated it's unlikely that the designers would have overlooked a dampening mechanism on the gate, so noise is unlikely to be an issue.

It also seems to me irrelevant if the cycle hangers take up a parking space, or if that space is regained due to resulting increased bike/reduced car use. If a motorist owns two or more vehicles they can (and will) park them on the street. If a cyclist owns two or more bikes and wishes to keep one secured in a hanger, they can.

BTW, a quick glance anywhere around ED will prove that the streets are hardly lined exclusively with beautifully designed German cars!

[Earl Aelfheah]

They take up half a car space btw. Agree they could be prettier, but still think the positive aspects massively out weigh the negatives.

[nashoi]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> This should fit in on Goose Green..

> Would solve all East Dulwich Parking Probs..

> Create revenue and plenty of space for cycles

> too.

>

> .. And near the station. and all the shops and

> restaurants..

>

> http://www.graysshoppingcentre.co.uk/wp-content/up

> loads/2011/07/car-park.jpg

>

> Foxy Solving problems..

A slightly better alternative for Goose Green

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24960489

[Sue]

Muley Wrote:

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> matthew123 Wrote:

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> ----

> "but it is somehow assumed

> that the rest of us are doing cartwheels over the

> idea of these pieces of metal junk lining our

> streets"

>

>

> Such as cars, for example?

:)) :)) :))

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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>

> Keep them safe in your house where they can be

> added to your home insurance for less than the

> hire charge.

>

> It may me a little inconvenient but in the long

> run I think it's worth it.

>

They can be added to your home insurance whether or not you keep them in the house.

And it's not "a little inconvenient" to keep them in the house, it's bloody inconvenient, unless you have a large hall and/or a way to your garden (assuming you have a garden) which doesn't involve lugging the bike, possibly wet and muddy, all through your house to get there.

[matthew123]

Sue, isn't that the same argument for dog owners? Should dog owners not be able to demand dog kennels on the street?

[Earl Aelfheah]

We all pay for the roads, they are not the exclusive preseve of car drivers. Just half a single car space allocated for parking a vehicle other than a car and people get shirty. It's not the same as a dog kennel, don't be ridiculous.

[maxxi]

I like the idea but this design, as well as looking like shit, gives the impression that a couple of enterprising chaps with a small kangol (or angle grinder) and a truck could half-inch a fully laden one in a few minutes.

They wouldn't even need the aid of a work-experience kid underneath to lift the wheels of the chained bikes, just secure the lid, flip upside down and *Bob*s your uncle; bikes in a basket.

To go.

[Muley]

Matthew, as you've expressed concern about noise, can you guarantee these dogs kennelled on the street won't be causing a nuisance with their barking?

Just askin'...